Pakistan to finally get Saab AWAC's

crazyinsane105

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Saab and Ericsson in Pakistan surveillance deal
Pakistan has signed a contract with two Swedish companies for a land surveillance system that could have been useful in emergency operations arising from the earthquake in Kashmir, the aircraft maker Saab announced on Wednesday.

The system operates aboard a Saab 2000 turbo-propelled aircraft, relying on the Erieye on-board radar system developed by Ericsson Microwave Systems, a subsidiary of the telecom giant Ericsson, a news release stated.

Saab will receive two thirds of the 8.3 million Swedish kronor (878 million-euro, one-billion-dollar) contract and Ericsson will get the other third.

Saab said the surveillance system would be used together with ground-based radars "to provide a more detailed picture" to assist rescue operations and help Pakistan face "different threats to the country".

"In the aftermath of the severe earthquake, the system would have been able to play a significant part in the search and rescue operations" and in logistical support, the statement read.

Saab added that "important conditions remain to be settled" before the contract becomes effective.

The number of Saab 2000 aircraft in the contract was not specified by Saab but the popular Swedish daily Aftonbladet put the total at six.

The earthquake in Kashmir on October 8 caused the deaths of 47,700 people and injured 67,000, according to the latest toll announced Wednesday by the military head of emergency operations, General Farooq Ahmad Khan.
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Saab to provide surveillance system to Pakistan

21/10/2005 by Parthajit



Sweden's Saab has signed a contract to supply an airborne surveillance system for Pakistan. Important conditions remain to be settled until the contract will be effective. The company said that the contract value is SEK 8,3 billion, with two-thirds for Saab and one-third for Ericsson Microwave Systems.

The company acknowledged that Pakistan has long required an airborne system for continuous surveillance of their borders and air and sea territory. The surveillance system, together with existing ground-based radars, is expected to provide a more detailed picture, enabling Pakistan to conduct rescue operations and detect different threats to the country.

The system will be able to play a significant part in the search and rescue operations and in logistic support, the company said. The airborne surveillance system includes Saab 2000 turboprop aircraft equipped with Ericsson Microwave Systems airborne radar system Erieye.

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Saab Pens Preliminary Deal To Sell AEW Planes to Pakistan
By GERARD O’DWYER, HELSINKI


Saab on Oct. 18 signed a provisional $1.1 billion contract with Pakistan to deliver an airborne early warning (AEW) surveillance system comprising Saab 2000 turboprop planes equipped with the Erieye airborne radar.

Saab refused to specify the number of AEW systems contained in the preliminary contract. The Swedish company said a number of outstanding issues remained before the contract can be finalized.

“We are not disclosing what exactly these issues are,†said Saab spokesman Peter Larsson. “What we can say right now is that we do not expect to execute delivery for several years. All of the integration work attaching to the contract will be carried out in Sweden.â€



The AEW systems to be supplied to Pakistan are to be primarily used for continuous surveillance of the air territory, borders and the sea, Saab Chief Executive •ke Svensson said at the company’s quarterly results meeting in Stockholm Oct. 21.

“We have been actively negotiating this contract with Pakistan for two to three years,†said Svensson.

Initial leaks from Saab’s negotiations with Pakistan suggested that a final order could entail delivery of up to 14 Saab 2000s for the Pakistan Air Force to replace aging F-27 Fokker planes.

Defense industry analysts in Sweden suggest that the final number of AEW systems delivered to Pakistan could range between six and eight.

Of the total contract value, two-thirds of the final amount will go to Saab and one-third to Ericsson Microwave Systems, which makes the Erieye radar, Saab said.

“As Saab is not manufacturing Saab 2000s any more, we will need to source the turboprop aircraft we need from the civilian market in Scandinavia and globally. There are a lot of aircraft of this type with low-flying hours and which are in near-mint condition. We will have no difficulty sourcing the Saab 2000s we need in the numbers required to fulfill our contract with Pakistan,†said Larsson.

Powered by two Allison/Rolls-Royce AE2100 engines, the Saab 2000 can remain airborne for nine hours at 30,000 feet.

Ericsson’s Erieye is the first long-range, high-performance airborne early warning and control system to be customized to operate on small- to medium-sized commercial and military turboprop planes.

The Erieye can effectively spot a fighter-sized target about 330 kilometers away. Seaborne targets can be detected 320 kilometers away when the aircraft is at optimum cruising height. •


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This is the AWACS that Y-8 balance beam AWACS supposedly modeled after.

so, that's 6-8 AWACS for 1.1 billion? How much are the other AWACS of this size?

Why does PAF need that many AWACS? Even India is only getting 3 of those Phalcons.
 
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crazyinsane105

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tphuang said:
This is the AWACS that Y-8 balance beam AWACS supposedly modeled after.

so, that's 6-8 AWACS for 1.1 billion? How much are the other AWACS of this size?

Why does PAF need that many AWACS? Even India is only getting 3 of those Phalcons.

The Phalcons can cover 350 degrees. One PAF AWAC can't do that so two will be used at the same time to cover 360 degrees.
 

Lavi

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The Argus covers about 160 angels to each side, meaning that only 40 degrees remains uncovered. A plane loitering can most probably keep turning the radar where it's wanted for most of the time, meaning that there isn't really a need for two aircrafts working in a pair to perform the same mission as one AEW that covers 360 degrees.
 

FreeAsia2000

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A fleet of three aircraft is sufficient to sustain two airborne patrols around the clock for a limited time, or one airborne patrol with one aircraft on continuous ground alert for more than 30 days. Although capable of long endurance at normal patrol speeds, the EMB-145 has a high dash speed which contributes to survivability on patrol missions.

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Lavi

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For the Embraer or the SAAB?

The SAAB has a 1,300 km max range with full payload and 5-7 hours endurance. The Embraer has 2,450 km range loaded (don't know if it's just 'loaded' or 'fully loaded') and the 'typical endurance in excess of 8 hours'.
 

ArjunMk1

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Lavi said:
For the Embraer or the SAAB?

The SAAB has a 1,300 km max range with full payload and 5-7 hours endurance. The Embraer has 2,450 km range loaded (don't know if it's just 'loaded' or 'fully loaded') and the 'typical endurance in excess of 8 hours'.

Actually I mean the radar range !! Pls give radar range of both .
 
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