Opportunity for US-China joint enforcement of international law?

Blackstone

Brigadier
It seems Japan plans to resume commercial whaling, in defiance of an international court ruling against it. It's a good opportunity for US and China Coast Guards to work together on providing global public goods by enforcing international whaling laws.

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Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has said Japan will step up efforts to resume its annual whale hunt in the Antarctic. "I want to aim for the resumption of commercial whaling by conducting whaling research," Mr Abe said.
In March, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that the whaling programme was not for scientific research as Japan had claimed.
Australia, backed by New Zealand, brought the case against Japan in 2010.
Japan had stopped the hunt in the Antarctic after the ruling but vessels have carried on hunting Minke whales along Japan's northern coast. Japan says these are also for research purposes.
How Mr Abe intends to get around the international court ruling concerning the hunt in the Antarctic remains unclear, the BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes reports from Tokyo. Referring to the respect given to whales by those in towns where whaling takes place, Mr Abe said it was "regrettable that this part of Japanese culture is not understood".
The ICJ had said that Japan had killed around 3,600 Minke whales since 2005 under its Antarctic whaling programme, known as JARPA II. While JARPA II could broadly be characterised as "scientific research", the scientific output from the programme was limited, and Japan had not sufficiently justified the whaling quotas it had set, the ICJ said.
During the court case, Australia argued that Japan's programme was commercial whaling in disguise, but Tokyo said the suit was an attempt to impose Australia's cultural norms on Japan.
Japan is a signatory to a 1986 moratorium on whaling, but had continued whaling under provisions that allowed for scientific research. Norway and Iceland rejected the provision and continued commercial whaling. The moratorium also excludes subsistence whaling among indigenous groups, although catch limits are set.
 

Janiz

Senior Member
Is there anything in international law which could make it happen like you imagine that? Is there a paragraph there which makes it possible for any CG to interfere with third country's actions on international waters outside of it's own EEZ? They created any International Maritime Police?

Seriously - I doubt it.
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
Is there anything in international law which could make it happen like you imagine that? Is there a paragraph there which makes it possible for any CG to interfere with third country's actions on international waters outside of it's own EEZ? They created any International Maritime Police?

Seriously - I doubt it.

The USCG routinely enforce international fishing laws on the high seas, so there are precedences for such law enforcement operations.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
The US is not going to get involved because Japan knows the US needs a happy ally at this time. And I bet Japan's defiance is in part exploitation of this. It's not going to do anything for China's image either. "Let them fight!"
 

advill

Junior Member
BTW, Shark Fins Soup still served in China, HK and other cities in Asia. I doubt whether it is at all possible to stop fishermen to stop making lucrative money - same too with whaling. The only possibility is to educate the young in schools everywhere - a lot of effort though, as it's part of the "cultural" eating habits of Chinese and Japanese to eat these endangered species (to us), BUT exotic to others.
 

SamuraiBlue

Captain
It seems Japan plans to resume commercial whaling, in defiance of an international court ruling against it. It's a good opportunity for US and China Coast Guards to work together on providing global public goods by enforcing international whaling laws.

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One point, there are NO international whaling laws.
 

Player 0

Junior Member
BTW, Shark Fins Soup still served in China, HK and other cities in Asia. I doubt whether it is at all possible to stop fishermen to stop making lucrative money - same too with whaling. The only possibility is to educate the young in schools everywhere - a lot of effort though, as it's part of the "cultural" eating habits of Chinese and Japanese to eat these endangered species (to us), BUT exotic to others.

In which case don't ban it but legalize and then regulate, that's how the Chinese have handled declining tiger populations and the South Africans are handling their declining Rhino populations, and they seem to be working.

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Even with lack of reliable information there's no denying that maintaining a high population of animals in demand is easier than no regulation and letting either criminals or economic development wipe out the species anyway.
 
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