Nuclear powered guided missile battlecruiser

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montyp165

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I've asked this question elsewhere but would like some commentary/observations from the good denizens here :):
Considering the number of complex systems that a CVN incorporates, would it be worthwhile for the PLAN to build a large BCGN of ~28000 tons to serve as a systems testbed for several of these, such as nuclear powerplant, advanced C4ISR systems, tracking radars et al? This could help simplify things when time comes to build a CVN.
 
bd popeye

bd popeye

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They've never built any surface ship that size. Let alone a battlecruiser ..of nuclear power no less. It would be quite an untertaking. Seeing how we China watchers have been waiting for the mystical PLAN CV?/CVH/LPH/LHA/LHD to appear for the last few years. And yet we still don't see one.

Considering the number of complex systems that a CVN incorporates, would it be worthwhile for the PLAN to build a large BCGN of ~28000 tons to serve as a systems testbed for several of these, such as nuclear powerplant, advanced C4ISR systems, tracking radars et al? This could help simplify things when time comes to build a CVN.
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Only if they will put the time(several years) and effort into the ship with PLAN R &D and little if no outside influence.
 
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Finn McCool

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The PLAN has been operating nuclear subs for years, and its newer frigates and destroyers have pretty advanced radar. So that isn't the issue for operating a carrier. They would have much more difficulty with mastering air ops. Also I doubt the PLAN's first carrier would be a CVN.
 
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Finn McCool said:
The PLAN has been operating nuclear subs for years, and its newer frigates and destroyers have pretty advanced radar. So that isn't the issue for operating a carrier. They would have much more difficulty with mastering air ops. Also I doubt the PLAN's first carrier would be a CVN.
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Finn, there is quite a diffrence in operating nuke subs and nuke surface ships. I'm not at all sure what the paraimeters of the operations are I just know it takes a larger power plant and more technicians to operate a surface nuke ship.

The USN decomissioned all of it's nuke cruisers 1993 til' 1999.
 
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Scratch

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I think one can test latest radar, ISR and comm suites on any bigger test ship and a nuclear propulsion outside of a full fledged BC. Such a ship, with all the systems would be enormously expensive and probably not worth it. I also don't think such a class is needed and it probably will not help that much in gaining expeiance building a CVN.
 
bd popeye

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crobato said:
You should correct that to warships.

China already builds VLCC tankers.

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Some rather large containerships and an LNG.

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I thought that was implied:confused:. I'm well aware of the PRC shipbuilding capablity. But a bulk tanker, container ship is not a warship. As I'm am sure you all are aware there's quite a diffrence between merchant ships na warships.

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Why with little or no outside influence? Wouldn't outside influence help speed up the process?
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I'd like to see the PLAN build their own design in a larger warship class.. I'm sure they can.
 
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Totoro

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071 is already a very large warship. Other than that and a possible carrier, i doubt we'll see very large combat ships for PLAN in the next decade or so. Meaning larger than they're building now. There's just no need for that.
 
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