New Israeli development: sci fi in reality!
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FreeAsia2000
Junior Member
Dosn't this ability already exist on the T90S Russian tank ?
I mean it's not really sci-fi is it ?
I mean it's not really sci-fi is it ?
Russian tanks had an ability like this, but it wasn't really that effective. Also, this system may only offer limited protection to veichles. It needs to be battletested in places like Iraq first plus it can probably be overcome by a saturated attack. Don't get me wrong, it's a great system, but it's gonna take a long time to get all the bugs worked out.
DarkEminence
New Member
Some more info:
If the RPG's are fired from close range, the RPG can damage the radar (I believe) from the shrapnel/destroyed remains. The computer nor the rounds would be able to completely deflect the RPG. In fourth generation warefare, the insurgency would prefer to attack from close than afar.
If the RPG's are fired from close range, the RPG can damage the radar (I believe) from the shrapnel/destroyed remains. The computer nor the rounds would be able to completely deflect the RPG. In fourth generation warefare, the insurgency would prefer to attack from close than afar.
DarkEminence said:
Above that, you can just spray the veichle with some .50 caliber machine gun rounds and aim at the radar. Not only would it take out the radar, but it would distract the veichle from the bigger threat (the man with the RPG or ATGM).
Searching for shields
Army officials apparently chose Quick Kill despite recommendations by the Pentagon’s Office of Force Transformation that it consider the Israeli-developed Trophy active protection system, which is far closer to going into service – the Israeli defence force is due to make a procurement decision for ground vehicles in the coming months.
Rafael’s Trophy appears similar to Quick Kill, and the manufacturer says it is being considered for adaptation to protect helicopters. The threat detection and warning subsystem consists of several sensors, including a search radar with four flat-panel antennas located around the protected vehicle to provide full hemispherical coverage. The neutralisation process will take place only if the threat is assessed as heading for the platform.
Israel Military Industries (IMI) has also developed an APS, dubbed Iron Fist, which is claimed to be capable of defeating a wide range of unguided anti-tank rockets, guided missiles and kinetic energy (KE) rounds. During final tests conducted towards the end of 2005, Iron Fist successfully intercepted a range of anti-tank projectiles, including KE rounds.
Designed to neutralise a threat without initiating the warhead, the system could be adapted for helicopters as the interception creates neither blast nor fragments. “The system’s interceptor is somewhat like a mortar round, carrying insensitive-munitions blast explosive in a combustible envelope,” says Yuval Karakookly, head of IMI’s APS business unit.
Shaped like a small mortar bomb, the Iron Fist interceptor uses only the blast effect to defeat the threat, crushing the soft components of a shaped charge or deflecting and destabilising the missile or kinetic rod in flight. The interceptor is made of a combustible envelope that is consumed in the explosion.
The first two Iron Fist prototypes were installed on an APC and a main battle tank. “In most of the tests, the vehicle sustained no damage at all while, in a few cases, minimal damage was created by the impact of the missile’s tail,” says IMI president Avi Felder. The company is currently developing a lighter version to fit a Humvee.
Army officials apparently chose Quick Kill despite recommendations by the Pentagon’s Office of Force Transformation that it consider the Israeli-developed Trophy active protection system, which is far closer to going into service – the Israeli defence force is due to make a procurement decision for ground vehicles in the coming months.
Rafael’s Trophy appears similar to Quick Kill, and the manufacturer says it is being considered for adaptation to protect helicopters. The threat detection and warning subsystem consists of several sensors, including a search radar with four flat-panel antennas located around the protected vehicle to provide full hemispherical coverage. The neutralisation process will take place only if the threat is assessed as heading for the platform.
Israel Military Industries (IMI) has also developed an APS, dubbed Iron Fist, which is claimed to be capable of defeating a wide range of unguided anti-tank rockets, guided missiles and kinetic energy (KE) rounds. During final tests conducted towards the end of 2005, Iron Fist successfully intercepted a range of anti-tank projectiles, including KE rounds.
Designed to neutralise a threat without initiating the warhead, the system could be adapted for helicopters as the interception creates neither blast nor fragments. “The system’s interceptor is somewhat like a mortar round, carrying insensitive-munitions blast explosive in a combustible envelope,” says Yuval Karakookly, head of IMI’s APS business unit.
Shaped like a small mortar bomb, the Iron Fist interceptor uses only the blast effect to defeat the threat, crushing the soft components of a shaped charge or deflecting and destabilising the missile or kinetic rod in flight. The interceptor is made of a combustible envelope that is consumed in the explosion.
The first two Iron Fist prototypes were installed on an APC and a main battle tank. “In most of the tests, the vehicle sustained no damage at all while, in a few cases, minimal damage was created by the impact of the missile’s tail,” says IMI president Avi Felder. The company is currently developing a lighter version to fit a Humvee.
Li Shizhen said:
The Chinese Type 99 tank has active laser protecton:
ACTIVE LASER COUNTERMEASURES
The Type 99 tank is fitted with a JD-3 integrated laser countermeasures suite, which consists of a laser rangefinder, a laser warning receiver (LWR), and an active laser self-defence weapon (LSDW).
Unlike contemporary Russian active tank self-defence systems such as Drozd, Drozd-2, and Arena, which launch projectiles to disable or "shoot-down" incoming anti-tank missiles and projectiles, the Chinese-developed laser self-defence system uses a high-powered laser to directly attack the enemy weapon's optics and gunner.
When the LWR detected that the tank is being illuminated by an enemy range-finding or weapon-guidance laser, the system warns the tank crew and the LSDW is employed against the source of the enemy laser. The procedure of the laser weapon would first use a low-powered beam to locate the optics of the enemy weapon. Once the enemy weapon was located, the power level of the laser would be immediately and dramatically increased. Such an attack would disable the guidance optics of the enemy weapon and/or damage the eyesight of the enemy gunner.
Other than that, I am not aware of any other defensive system that China is developing for its armored veichles.
