New Chinese "F-X" single-engine fighter?

vesicles said:

Ever since J-20, I've heard about J-14, J-15, J-16, J-18 and J-19. I am now totally confused...

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LOL. Only believe things when they are proved...

bluewater2012 said:

I did a quick google search and found the plane to be named J-14. If this true, it's truly impressive for PRC to co-develop both the (F-22 and F-35 alike) in the same time span.

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J-14 probably doesn't exist -- 4 in Chinese culture is considered as bad as 13 in Western culture. A F-35 style fighter is years away and probalby hasn't been given a J-designation as of yet. It's more likely for JH-7B to exist at the moment than a Chinese F-35 type fighter.

vesicles said:

Ever since J-20, I've heard about J-14, J-15, J-16, J-18 and J-19. I am now totally confused...

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My 2 cents on J-10+ designations:
J-11, J-13 (cold war interceptor/fighter, never completed), J-15 (naval flanker), J-16 (silent flanker, has yet to be confirmed that it exists), J-18/J-19 (SAC proposal for J-XX which failed, number could be given for follow up fighter to J-15), J-20.
Of the above only J-20, J-11/B, J-15 are confirmed to exist and we'll hopefully get photos of J-16 sometime this year.

But what's certain at the moment is that there is no singled engined stealth fighter down the pipeline -- they've probably begun studies on it, but i estimate it may take a decade until we start seeing pictures or even definite rumors.

Bltizo said:

J-14 probably doesn't exist -- 4 in Chinese culture is considered as bad as 13 in Western culture. A F-35 style fighter is years away and probalby hasn't been given a J-designation as of yet. It's more likely for JH-7B to exist at the moment than a Chinese F-35 type fighter.



My 2 cents on J-10+ designations:
J-11, J-13 (cold war interceptor/fighter, never completed), J-15 (naval flanker), J-16 (silent flanker, has yet to be confirmed that it exists), J-18/J-19 (SAC proposal for J-XX which failed, number could be given for follow up fighter to J-15), J-20.
Of the above only J-20, J-11/B, J-15 are confirmed to exist and we'll hopefully get photos of J-16 sometime this year.

But what's certain at the moment is that there is no singled engined stealth fighter down the pipeline -- they've probably begun studies on it, but i estimate it may take a decade until we start seeing pictures or even definite rumors.

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There is no J-15 follow-up. J-18 or J-19 are simply speculated designations given to designs. Huitong vaguely mentions that a design called J-19 is in early development, but it is unconfirmed.

J-16 is SAC's stealth version of J-11B.

J-14 may simply be another name for the J-20. However, the stealth fighter-bomber at SAC may adopt another designation.

JH-7B is essentially the Chinese equivalent of the F-35 (except with two engines).

There may be a single-engine stealthy fighter in China that is developed from the JF-17. There was a report of a MoU signed between China and Pakistan to develop a stealth version of the JF-17 a few years back. A later article states that a variant of the JF-17, called YFC-1E, has been successfully developed.

SinoSoldier said:

There is no J-15 follow-up. J-18 or J-19 are simply speculated designations given to designs. Huitong vaguely mentions that a design called J-19 is in early development, but it is unconfirmed.

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Oh I imagine there would be a follow up to the J-15 in some form or another. J-19 or J-18 or whatever is no more confirmed than JH-7B is.

J-16 is SAC's stealth version of J-11B.

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Is that not what I said?

J-14 may simply be another name for the J-20. However, the stealth fighter-bomber at SAC may adopt another designation.

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I doubt it. Just like how there hasn't been a real "F-13", there probably will never be a "J-14" either.

JH-7B is essentially the Chinese equivalent of the F-35 (except with two engines).

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Yeah you know my view on the JH-7B, we'll have to agree to disagree for the moment.

There may be a single-engine stealthy fighter in China that is developed from the JF-17. There was a report of a MoU signed between China and Pakistan to develop a stealth version of the JF-17 a few years back. A later article states that a variant of the JF-17, called YFC-1E, has been successfully developed.

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Right, the stealthy JF-17 -- but that doesn't really constitute a real 5th gen single engined fighter, which is what I was getting at.

more news about "snow owl" this time CG show twin engine jet, not a single engine.
it seem's to me each aircraft co has there own stealth project.

And that CG is just what was the tri-plane might look like for the XXJ when it was very unknown ... long, long ago.

A STOL / CTOL type stealth fighter would be a great companion to the J-20. If there's really another stealth fighter in development, it's only logical for SAC to concentrate on this other end of the requirement and to avoid redundancy of producing another fighter of J-20 capability.

Or maybe SAC should focus on designing and building a stealth version of the J-15 for deployment on carrier. Could be an STOL version, or a single engine fighter for carrier borne missions. Since I believe SAC is already involved in the J-15 (which was carrier base fighter).

It's nice to plan to design an aircraft that can do everything, but you're likely to end up with an expensive lemon. Remember the F-111, that was also to be based on aircraft carriers? It was saved by being rejected by USN. I wonder if enough services will reject F-35 to save it or if it is already too late?

Damn! have the journalist no shame? The 2nd picture is obviously PSed BUT the 1st picture is non other than an F-35!!
Amazing!