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FORBIN

Lieutenant General
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For HQ/HHQ-16

After inquest... i find :
HQ-16 or HHQ-16/Navy 40 km range
HQ-16A /TELs 40 km range in Army's Battalions of 6
HQ-16B /TELs 60-70 km range in Army's Battalions of 6
HQ-16C or HHQ-16C/Navy 60-70km range

If some have better for designations and specifications ?
 

jobjed

Captain
I've begun digging up early pop3 articles as they are fantastic and shed a ton of light on PLAN history, capabilities, and doctrine. One of these articles give a brief summary of
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In 1983, research into VLS technology began. However, owing to a variety of reasons including shortage of funding, by 1985, the research progress had essentially ground to a halt. In 1986, under the seventh 5-Year Plan, VLS technology was designated a foundation and practical field and appropriate amounts of funding was allocated to its development. All VLS developed by China so far were developed by 713th Institute in Zhengzhou.

In December 1997, the first Chinese VLS passed evaluations and, in 1998, was installed onto Vessel 970 (later test vessel 891). Later that year in August, the system underwent at-sea testing and live firing. This was the H/AJK-03 cold-launch VLS used on the Type 052C.

The H/AJK-03 is a revolver-type VLS hosting solely the HHQ-9. When firing, the cells have independent doors and can fire even if neighbouring cells malfunction. This is an improvement over the Soviet Rif-M VLS that uses one door for the entire 6-cell module, which could prevent the firing of all missiles if the rotating mechanism fails during combat. The rotation feature of the H/AJK-03 is only used when loading so that the loading crane only needs to be calibrated for one position and the five other cells can simply be rotated into place to receive a new missile. This allows the reloading process to be more efficient than if the crane has to be readjusted for every single cell.

The H/AJK-03 was developed when China had no experience fielding VLS and thus, was not developed with modularity in mind. The design is no longer manufactured now that all 052Cs are fully outfitted.

The second VLS design developed by China is the hot-launch H/AJK-16 used on the 054As. This newer design incorporated a limited capacity for modularity and is reloaded by sealed canisters. The H/AJK-16 can fire HHQ-16 SAM and Yu-8 ASROC. The cannister length of the HHQ-16 is 5.2m and 5.4m for the Yu-8.

The HHQ-16 is given target information by the Type 382 radar and guided to impact by the illuminating radars. The Yu-8 is guided by shipboard sonar or helicopter-borne sonar communicating with the ship via data links.

The newest VLS is the type employed by the 052D. This design is truly modular and can fire the HHQ-9B, YJ-18, YJ-18A, etc. The YJ-18 is a LACM while the YJ-18A is an AShM. There are also variants of the YJ-18 developed for submarine launch.
 

FORBIN

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YJ-18 anti-ship missile for look exactly a Klub /SS-N-27 supersonic pointed nose then surely a copy

First pic of C̶l̶u̶b̶ YJ-18 submarine-launched AShM. Range 500 km, lower cruise altitude compared to Club, terminal speed>Mach 2.
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Iron Man

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That photo is definitely a Klub. But the photo does not necessarily represent a YJ-18. I'd like to see one clearly coming out of a VLS tube before I would call the YJ-18 a "copy" of the Klub.
 

Hyperwarp

Captain
YJ-18 anti-ship missile for look exactly a Klub /SS-N-27 supersonic pointed nose then surely a copy


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That is most certainly a Novator 3M-54TE 'Klub' (Unless they copied it down to the very paint scheme). The other option is that the YJ-18 is a licensed copy (with some modifications) of the 3M-54TE similar the YJ-91/91A which .

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There are only a very handful of purported YJ-18 images. PLAN is quite tight lipped about the YJ-18. In-fact, they have not showed us any footage of 052D VLS launch system in action in an active ship (excluding launches from test ships like 891).
 

FORBIN

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That is most certainly a Novator 3M-54TE 'Klub' (Unless they copied it down to the very paint scheme). The other option is that the YJ-18 is a licensed copy (with some modifications) of the 3M-54TE similar the YJ-91/91A which .

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There are only a very handful of purported YJ-18 images. PLAN is quite tight lipped about the YJ-18. In-fact, they have not showed us any footage of 052D VLS launch system in action in an active ship (excluding launches from test ships like 891).
According Klub/Kaliber family spécifications and agree with your attachment more than doubtfull YJ-18 supersonic in more have a 500 km range.
 

Hyperwarp

Captain
According Klub/Kaliber family spécifications and agree with your attachment more than doubtfull YJ-18 supersonic in more have a 500 km range.

All Russian export variants will be equal or less than 300 km.

The ranges for the domestic Russian variants are classified. Because of that all estimates for domestic versions have a very high variance.

3M-54TE - 220 km (export - anti-ship, terminal supersonic)
3M-54T - estimated at 440 km - 660 km (domestic - anti-ship, terminal supersonic)
3M-54TE1 - 300 km (export - anti-ship subsonic)
3M-14TE - 300 km (export - land-attack subsonic)
3M14T - estimated at 1500 km - 2500 km (domestic - land-attack subsonic)

This should be the case with YJ-18 as well. Ranges of domestic variants will not be known. But whether the YJ-18 with a supersonic terminal dart has an overall range greater has 500 km is probably speculation.
 

FORBIN

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All Russian export variants will be equal or less than 300 km.

The ranges for the domestic Russian variants are classified. Because of that all estimates for domestic versions have a very high variance.

3M-54TE - 220 km (export - anti-ship, terminal supersonic)
3M-54T - estimated at 440 km - 660 km (domestic - anti-ship, terminal supersonic)
3M-54TE1 - 300 km (export - anti-ship subsonic)
3M-14TE - 300 km (export - land-attack subsonic)
3M14T - estimated at 1500 km - 2500 km (domestic - land-attack subsonic)

This should be the case with YJ-18 as well. Ranges of domestic variants will not be known. But whether the YJ-18 with a supersonic terminal dart has an overall range greater has 500 km is probably speculation.
I have see and i don' t trust these 400 - 600 km
For spécifications very good here
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In more SS-N-26 more big have a max range to 300 km...

For LACM variant the range can be completely different by ex Tomahawk have a range of 1700 km and anti-ship variant RGM/UGM-109B retired had one of 450 km and same warhead also 450 kg.
 

Hyperwarp

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For LACM variant the range can be completely different by ex Tomahawk have a range of 1700 km and anti-ship variant RGM/UGM-109B retired had one of 450 km and same warhead also 450 kg.

Correct. RGM/UGM-109B anti-ship variant had the lowest range of all Tomahawks. Max range was only 460 km. With the exception of the warhead it is nearly identical to the RGM/UGM-109A -
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So the the 3M-54T with a supersonic terminal dart having a range of 440 km to 660 km is doubtful. A subsonic variant of the export 3M-54TE1 should be capable of 500 km.
 

davidau

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HQ-16, medium range missiles used by the Army and Navy for anti-air, anti-missile, especially effective against low-attitude targets, sea-skimming anti-ship missile...

Maximum flight speed: Mach 4, effective range of 1.5~40 km, effective altitude of 10~25000 meters..

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