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kwaigonegin

Colonel
Of course the life experiences of Chinese in China are different from Chinese elsewhere, it is both presumptuous and illogical to think that they would be the same. You seem to be pre-occupied with being judgmental about some absolutist practice of "Chinese tradition and value". I see the many flavors of practicing Chinese traditions and values as inherent diversity to be expected and celebrated of a culture of well over a billion people spread all over the world.

agreed 100%. Having traveled to a gazillion countries and continents I can most assuredly say that the Chinese disapora is probably the biggest and most widespread of any single ethnic group in the history of the world. To assume all people of ethinic chinese descent or worse all Asians are the same is extremely naive and ignorant. I've seen people of Chinese ethinicity in the mountains of Peru and and 3rd generation Chinese in South Africa. I guarantee you much of their culture has been far far removed from mainland China.

I believe this movie is based on events happening in Singapore with almost all South East Asian and American casts. Why would a movie like this PRESUMED be a HUGE HIT in China or Japan or Korea etc... just because it has Asian actors in it and filmed mainly in Singapore?
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
agreed 100%. Having traveled to a gazillion countries and continents I can most assuredly say that the Chinese disapora is probably the biggest and most widespread of any single ethnic group in the history of the world. To assume all people of ethinic chinese descent or worse all Asians are the same is extremely naive and ignorant. I've seen people of Chinese ethinicity in the mountains of Peru and and 3rd generation Chinese in South Africa. I guarantee you much of their culture has been far far removed from mainland China.

I believe this movie is based on events happening in Singapore with almost all South East Asian and American casts. Why would a movie like this PRESUMED be a HUGE HIT in China or Japan or Korea etc... just because it has Asian actors in it and filmed mainly in Singapore?

Because that's how Hollywood big shots sees Asians and Chinese in particular as in one huge brush stroke.
 

solarz

Brigadier
Because that's how Hollywood big shots sees Asians and Chinese in particular as in one huge brush stroke.

Not just that, but there's also an element of egocentrism. Remember how Hollywood was so surprised that The Force Awakens flopped in China? They think that just because they love something, everyone else in the world must as well.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
agreed 100%. Having traveled to a gazillion countries and continents I can most assuredly say that the Chinese disapora is probably the biggest and most widespread of any single ethnic group in the history of the world. To assume all people of ethinic chinese descent or worse all Asians are the same is extremely naive and ignorant. I've seen people of Chinese ethinicity in the mountains of Peru and and 3rd generation Chinese in South Africa. I guarantee you much of their culture has been far far removed from mainland China.

I believe this movie is based on events happening in Singapore with almost all South East Asian and American casts. Why would a movie like this PRESUMED be a HUGE HIT in China or Japan or Korea etc... just because it has Asian actors in it and filmed mainly in Singapore?

I do actually have the privilege of meeting Chinese from Peru and South Africa One is my coworker and the other is a girl I met in my Ski club I don't find them to be that much different from the experience of Chinese in SEA
The girl from SA told me how she experience racism first hand when she was little remember this is back in 70's when the white supremacist is in power in SA

She told me she had to sit on the back of the bus when she ride a bus The Chinese in SEA also experience institutional racism in Malaysia and Indonesia . Yet they prosper in spite of it. The SA girl is successful accountant

Different they maybe but they share the core value of Chinese culture. I know that the Chinese is Peru is highly successful society due to their work ethic and perseverance. Surprisingly Peru is 20 or 30% Chinese

Other sources estimate that the population of Peruvians with Chinese ancestry is as high as 20% when people of mixed heritage are included in the statistics.

Talking about the devil CRA will be premier this month in Japan It might not have the same effect as in NA because this kind of story is common in Asian movie or story telling poor girl meet handsome and wealthy guy and has class problem But I think Japanese are familiar with Singapore throng of Japanese tourist are enjoying their durian and hawker center in 90's and 2000's
Plus there are thousand of Japanese expat in Singapore So I don't know Let see
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Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Here is the contrast between Kevin Kwan and AA writer David Wong. Kevin story always exude an adoration for his heritage and find comfort in it .He took pride in the language , food, lifestyle, Their foibles and shortcoming too. This guy reject it

David Wong Louie, Who Probed Ethnic Identity in Fiction, Dies at 63
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David Wong Louie. “He is elegant, funny, a touch spooky, and has as fine a hair-trigger control of alienation and absurdity as any of the best of his generation,” one critic wrote.CreditCreditMario Ruiz/The LIFE Images Collection, Getty Images
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, an American writer who drew on his experiences as the son of Chinese immigrants to create stories that explored identity, alienation and acceptance, died on Sept. 19 at his home in Venice, Calif. He was 63.

The cause was throat cancer, for which he had been treated for years, his friend Stephen Mills said.

Mr. Louie published only one novel, “
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” (2000), and one short story collection, “
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” (1991), but his work won awards and acclaim.

“It must be said right off that Louie is the furthest thing from a genre ethnic writer,” the critic
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wrote in a review of “Pangs of Love” in The Los Angeles Times in 1991. “He is elegant, funny, a touch spooky, and has as fine a hair-trigger control of alienation and absurdity as any of the best of his generation.”
Mr. Louie’s work influenced younger writers like
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, the Vietnamese-American author who won a Pulitzer Prize in 2016 for his novel “
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“His stories read now as if they were written yesterday,” Mr. Nguyen wrote in a foreword for a forthcoming edition of “Pangs of Love” published by University of Washington Press. “They remain powerful, moving, relevant, urgent, and they persist in that way because of the author’s imagination, his capacity to tell a story, his wit and humor.”

Language itself — the struggle to master a new one or the pointed rejection of a tongue, whether new or ancestral — was often a theme in Mr. Louie’s stories.

In one of his stories, “Displacement,” about a formerly aristocratic Chinese woman named Mrs. Chow who becomes a caregiver for a widow after joining her husband in the United States, English becomes a sore point when Mr. Chow teaches his wife what he has learned.

“What he had mastered came out crudely and strangely twisted,” Mr. Louie wrote. “His phrases, built from a vocabulary of deference and accommodation, irritated Mrs. Chow for the way they resembled the obsequious blabber of her servants back home.”

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Mr. Louie’s short-story collection, ”Pangs of Love,” won awards from The Los Angeles Times and the literary journal Ploughshares for best first book and was selected as a
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“Displacement” was included in the anthology “The Best American Short Stories 1989.”

Mr. Louie also wrote of characters who resist their ethnic backgrounds. Sterling Lung, the protagonist of “The Barbarians Are Coming,” is a Chinese-American chef who was trained in French cuisine but who is constantly asked to make Chinese food. He rebels against his Chinese parents by marrying a Jewish woman instead of a woman in China named Yuk, chosen from afar by his parents.

“What did he expect?” Sterling thinks about his father. “I was born here, among the wolves. If he wanted a clone of himself, if he wanted Yuk for a child, he should’ve stayed in China.”

But Sterling’s marriage, born of passionate rebellion, becomes dutiful and cold, much like that of his parents.


Mr. Louie was born on Dec. 20, 1954, in Rockville Centre, N.Y., on Long Island, to Henry and Yu Lan (Mok) Louie. His father came to the United States from China in the 1940s, and his mother joined him in the 1950s. The family ran a laundry in East Meadow, N.Y., for most of Mr. Louie’s childhood.

He was one of the few Asian-Americans at East Meadow High School.

“A lot of Asian people, including myself, try to figure out who we are by trying on different guises,” Mr. Louie told The New York Times in a
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. “All my childhood friends were white, so I thought of myself as white almost. I’d tell myself, ‘Don’t think of your parents.’ ”


He graduated from high school in 1973 and earned a bachelor’s degree in English from Vassar College in 1977 and a master’s in creative writing from the University of Iowa in 1981. He taught writing at the University of Iowa, Vassar and colleges in the University of California system before settling at U.C.L.A., where he also taught Asian-American studies, in 1992.


“Pangs of Love” won awards from The Los Angeles Times and the literary journal Ploughshares for best first book and was selected as a
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by The New York Times Book Review.

In 1990 Mr. Louie learned he had Hodgkin’s lymphoma, for which he was treated for two years. His illnesses, his meticulous editing habits and his decision not to write while classes were in session contributed to his relatively slim literary output, some of his colleagues said.

His first marriage, to Diane Hoberman, ended in divorce. In 1995 he married Jacklyn Kim, who survives him. He is also survived by a son from his first marriage, Jules; a daughter from his second, Sogna; a sister, Marge Louie; and two brothers, George and Richard.

Food was a recurring theme in Mr. Louie’s work and a passion in his life, both to cook and to consume. His throat cancer, which was first diagnosed in 2011, deprived him of solid food in his last years, an experience he described in his last published essay, which appeared in
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In it Mr. Louie described a new, excruciating kind of alienation.

“I don’t remember how it feels to be in the presence of food and crave it, want to own it, or how it feels to know its pleasure and anticipate having that pleasure again,” he wrote. “I can’t relate
 
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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Anybody watching The Purge TV series? You'd figure how could they make a TV show from a movie about a holiday where there's no law and people just kill. Yeah it's still that but sort of interesting they give some character development on why people do what they do. They say good science fiction reflects on today's society. It sort of plays that way because you see people's demons and what if there's no inhibition being the law. They emphasize people's right to purge. In this world the US only exercises this right. You have foreigners fly into the US for "purge tourism" and participate in it. I know they would never take this angle but it would be interesting since Americans like to dictate and exercise their "rights" in other people's countries to have a story of American expatriates exercising and encouraging "the right to purge".
 
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Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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Heck just for movie and fans sake I would even go with the Stealth F-14 Tomcat.:D;)

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I like it, has anybody seen Hunter Killer, I really enjoyed it, contrived though it is, there is some real tension, and shades of "Red October", which even though contrived as well is still the best submarine movie every produced,,, I did like K-19, a little to real for me though....
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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Apparently it was loosely based on the experience of Singapore immigrant Kevin Kwan in Houston area Equation where are you? I haven;t seen the movie and likely will not see this movie but it got rave review and become block buster
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I don;t know what is so special about this old Elvis song "can't help falling in love"

Awe, I had to listen to it twice,, if you don't get this Bub, I need to pray for you, really I do need to pray for you! Our daughter was recorded seeing her boyfriend for the first time after he finished "Boot", someone recorded them and dubbed this sweet, sweet little song in! I will never forget the sheer joy and sorrow that this beautiful little song inspires.....

anyway, it was beautiful to see my daughter and her then boyfriend embrace after months and months apart, but it reminds me of how precious and sweet the love I have in my life really is.... I am so blessed to have been able to be there for the "Honey Badger", at the time she felt as if I were her personal bodyguard, and I did carry for a period of time......

being newly "in-love" is one of life's greatest feelings, being in love with your wife of 25 years is a blessing beyond blessings, the "Honey Badger" has been worth every minute,,, she's a beautiful woman, inside and out!
 

B.I.B.

Captain
I like it, has anybody seen Hunter Killer, I really enjoyed it, contrived though it is, there is some real tension, and shades of "Red October", which even though contrived as well is still the best submarine movie every produced,,, I did like K-19, a little to real for me though....

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B.I.B.

Captain
I like it, has anybody seen Hunter Killer, I really enjoyed it, contrived though it is, there is some real tension, and shades of "Red October", which even though contrived as well is still the best submarine movie every produced,,, I did like K-19, a little to real for me though....
I watched the trailer. A ok popcorn movie, definitely not worth shelling out for "Gold Class tickets. IMO the German film "Das Boot" 1981, about a uboat crew during WW2 is the best submarine film ever made.
 
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