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DC characters can easily be made overly serious and square while Marvel characters have more built-in cheekiness to defend against being made 2D, also an edge in making "epic" storylines more relatable which no one but hardcore fans really care about. There is also a significant star power gap between the latest wave of DC vs Marvel movies, obviously favoring Marvel. Good luck to the Wonder Woman movie.
 

siegecrossbow

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DC characters can easily be made overly serious and square while Marvel characters have more built-in cheekiness to defend against being made 2D, also an edge in making "epic" storylines more relatable which no one but hardcore fans really care about. There is also a significant star power gap between the latest wave of DC vs Marvel movies, obviously favoring Marvel. Good luck to the Wonder Woman movie.

The funny thing is that WB still has Bruce Timm (Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Justice League) in their employ. DCAU is basically a ready made blueprint for how a proper DC Cinematic Live Action should be built. When the stories concern Batman, they are appropriately gritty and brooding, but even then they had appropriate amounts of humor sprinkled through out to prevent things from becoming too emo. Like the live action Avengers characters, I felt that DCAU characters are people that I'd like to possibly hangout with on a weekend because they are flesh and blood and have actual personalities. Can you say that about the current live action Batman and Superman?
 
The funny thing is that WB still has Bruce Timm (Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Justice League) in their employ. DCAU is basically a ready made blueprint for how a proper DC Cinematic Live Action should be built. When the stories concern Batman, they are appropriately gritty and brooding, but even then they had appropriate amounts of humor sprinkled through out to prevent things from becoming too emo. Like the live action Avengers characters, I felt that DCAU characters are people that I'd like to possibly hangout with on a weekend because they are flesh and blood and have actual personalities. Can you say that about the current live action Batman and Superman?

Obviously not! Aren't we saying the same thing?
 

siegecrossbow

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Obviously not! Aren't we saying the same thing?

I know. I just want to rant a bit since I am frustrated with the current state of affairs.

Bruce Timm and Paul Dini are the type of guys who can take dumb ideas from executives and turn them into animated gold. When WB executives wanted to make what was essentially a Spider-Man ripoff (with teenage Batman to boot!), they gave us Batman Beyond, which was so great that it ended up in DC Comics canon years later.
 
I know. I just want to rant a bit since I am frustrated with the current state of affairs.

Bruce Timm and Paul Dini are the type of guys who can take dumb ideas from executives and turn them into animated gold. When WB executives wanted to make what was essentially a Spider-Man ripoff (with teenage Batman to boot!), they gave us Batman Beyond, which was so great that it ended up in DC Comics canon years later.

Tone is much more difficult to control, and expensive or impossible to redo, in live action than in animation. I think suits and bean counters are also more likely to pigeon hole the tone of live action comics-based movies especially "epic" storylines. Hope the DC movies' teams are learning but once again the tone of the Wonder Woman teaser materials don't bode well.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Speaking of the DCAU, they have announced Batman: The killing Joke, will be using basically The Batman the Animated series cast but rated a solid R. Which is appropriate given the source material is basically the Joker launching a all out assault on Jim and Barbara Gordon.
 

siegecrossbow

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Speaking of the DCAU, they have announced Batman: The killing Joke, will be using basically The Batman the Animated series cast but rated a solid R. Which is appropriate given the source material is basically the Joker launching a all out assault on Jim and Barbara Gordon.

Warner animation proved that they could actually do dark and gritty well (The Dark Knight Returns), so I am pretty confident that they'll do a great job, especially with the voice talents involved.
 
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