Most Capable Fighter

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SABRE

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FriedRiceNSpice said:
About J-XX and TVC:

Even if its supercruise, stealth, and sensory (such as advanced radar) abilities are slightly behind that of the F-22, do you think that TVC could give J-XX the decisive advantage over F-22? How effective do you guys think TVC is in modern air combat, in the age of BVR?
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How can you have advantage over some thing that you can not see, your SAMs can follow. F-22 is typical to Radars so J-XX will not have edge over but if you are asking tecnologicaly than the answer is NO. According LH-M F-22 is the most advance manuverable AirCraft & some say only Su-37 comes close to its turns.

I realy dont see the need of TVC. It is highly unlikely that TVC will come into any use during real time battle. If you want airforce which has a mission statement to perform in airshows 1st than defened the country than sure, TVC is good for you. For the same reason USAF rejected the F-16VISTA program saying it will only look good in air shows not battle but did went for it on F-22s.

Anyways back to topic. F-22 is now in service with USAF. It might reach 30+ in quantity by the end of the year. So the best fighter in service is F-22.
 
MIGleader

MIGleader

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wtf!!! all the f-22 has is up and down tvc, while the s-47 has the reverse wings. it can fly in any direction without turning the nose.

yes. the f-22 has fired one missle at iraq.
 
FriedRiceNSpice

FriedRiceNSpice

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what would the rankings be in 5-10 years?
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1- F-22 or J-XX
2- F-22 or J-xx
3- PAK FA
4- EF 2000
5- Su-37
6- JSF
7- MCA (from India, for those of you who don't know)
8- Rafale
9- Gripen
10- Mig 35 (Mig-29 TVC)
 
FriedRiceNSpice

FriedRiceNSpice

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MIGleader said:
wtf!!! all the f-22 has is up and down tvc, while the s-47 has the reverse wings. it can fly in any direction without turning the nose.

yes. the f-22 has fired one missle at iraq.
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Reverse wings just makes a fighter super-maneuverable at low speeds. TVC will not allow it to fly any direction without turning the nose, unless a super-slow hover counts.
 
rommel

rommel

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well, i think the new F-14D Supertomcat is the most capable fighter. The F-14D, delivered in 1990, was a major upgrade with F-110 engines, new APG-71 radar system, Airborne Self Protection Jammer (ASPJ), Joint Tactical Information Distribution System (JTIDS) and Infrared Search and Track (IRST). Additionally, all F-14 variants were given precision strike capability using the LANTIRN targeting system, night vision compatibility, new defensive countermeasures systems and a new digital flight control system.The F-14D has visual and all-weather attack capability to deliver Phoenix and AMRAAM missiles as well as the M-61 gun and Sidewinder missiles for close in air-to-air combat. The F-14 has the capability to launch as many as six AIM-54 missiles simultaneously against an equal number of targets in all weather and heavy jamming environments.. The F-14D also has the LANTIRN targeting system that allows delivery of various laser-guided bombs for precision strikes in air-to-ground combat missions. The variable-geometry wings give very good manoverability at every speed. The F-14D also has the capablity of supercruise at Mach 1.2, for this last one, i'm not sure, i only heard, maybe someone can tell me ??
 
FriedRiceNSpice

FriedRiceNSpice

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rommel said:
well, i think the new F-14D Supertomcat is the most capable fighter. The F-14D, delivered in 1990, was a major upgrade with F-110 engines, new APG-71 radar system, Airborne Self Protection Jammer (ASPJ), Joint Tactical Information Distribution System (JTIDS) and Infrared Search and Track (IRST). Additionally, all F-14 variants were given precision strike capability using the LANTIRN targeting system, night vision compatibility, new defensive countermeasures systems and a new digital flight control system.The F-14D has visual and all-weather attack capability to deliver Phoenix and AMRAAM missiles as well as the M-61 gun and Sidewinder missiles for close in air-to-air combat. The F-14 has the capability to launch as many as six AIM-54 missiles simultaneously against an equal number of targets in all weather and heavy jamming environments.. The F-14D also has the LANTIRN targeting system that allows delivery of various laser-guided bombs for precision strikes in air-to-ground combat missions. The variable-geometry wings give very good manoverability at every speed. The F-14D also has the capablity of supercruise at Mach 1.2, for this last one, i'm not sure, i only heard, maybe someone can tell me ??
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I had thought that the whole project was cancelled. Does any have any sources concerning the F-14D SuperTomcat?
 
rommel

rommel

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there's 53 F-14D Supertomcat currently in service. VF-2 Bounty Hunters, VF-31 Tomcatters, VF-213 Black Lions and VF-101 Grim Reapers (got some B too)
 
rommel

rommel

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u don't need stealth with AIM-54C Phoenix... u got so much of range that u can destroy the ennemy plane before even entering the other firing range. It's powerful radar make it as good as a small AWAC, so it could even detec some stealth plane, i think.
 
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