More than rare earth, 96.6% of material for US antibotics pencilin come from China

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  1. AssassinsMace

    AssassinsMace Brigadier

    Aug 31, 2005
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    Bad quality Chinese penicillin has traces of mold in it. ;)

    The US has the highest prices for pharmaceuticals in the world and they outsource the manufacture of it. They going to claim China is stealing the US blind from there too. Is Martin Shkreli Chinese?
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  2. FriedRiceNSpice

    FriedRiceNSpice Senior Member

    Aug 29, 2005
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    And Western pharmas make patented drugs using cheap Chinese APIs and sells it back to China for hundreds of dollars per dose. All the while the West complain about China not respecting patents and intellectual property! Another case of Western liberal media only picking out only the details that support it's own narrative and ignoring rest of the facts. Also a good example of the vaunted intellectual property rights that the West makes such a big deal about protecting.
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  3. Jura

    Jura General

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    one more googlefu link, this time to
    January 9, 2019
    Exposing the Risks of America's Dependence on China for Medicine

    and I leave the topic because in the meantime I recalled as a small kid I often had had
    so at one point I got a shot of what they called Pendepon (yeah I still remember the name): if I'm not mistaken, 0.1 liter of penicillin solution intramuscularly

    LOL now but it hurt as Hell
  4. Hendrik_2000

    Hendrik_2000 Brigadier

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    Not only just generic drug China now beat their competitor in Cancer drug too
    Excerpt from bloomberg
    China’s Churning Out Revolutionary Cancer Drugs Much Cheaper Than the U.S.
    One way to realize Beijing’s dreams of a world-class pharmaceutical industry: low prices.

    Bloomberg News
    June 4, 2019, 2:00 PM CDT Updated on June 5, 2019, 9:36 AM CDT
    Western companies last year began selling some of their hottest cancer drugs, called PD-1 inhibitors, with much fanfare in China. But rather than quickly conquering the mainland market, American drugmakers Merck & Co. and Bristol-Myers Squibb Co. have found themselves facing a surprising challenge: local competitors. Chinese companies are introducing patented cancer therapies in their home market based on PD-1 inhibitors, which use the body’s immune system to fight tumors. They’re doing it at far lower prices—sometimes a third of what U.S. drugmakers charge—which will likely give them a leg up at home. And their ambitions go far beyond the mainland, with several already preparing to sell their medicines in the U.S. and worldwide.

    The push into PD-1 drugs marks one of the first forays by China’s pharmaceutical industry into complex treatments. It’s the coming of age for a local industry long focused on cheap generics and chemical ingredients, and it’s being aided by Beijing’s efforts to speed up drug approvals and channel more funding toward health care.

    Developing a world-class pharmaceutical business is a priority for China’s leaders. Beijing’s Made in China 2025 plan identifies the drug industry as one of 10 sectors—along with aviation, electric vehicles, and advanced rail equipment—in which China will look for technological breakthroughs.

    One way Chinese companies plan to elbow into the market is lower pricing. Shanghai Junshi Biosciences Co. began selling its drug, called Tuoyi in China, in December for 187,000 yuan ($27,105) for a year’s dose for melanoma, a skin cancer. That’s one-third the cost of using Merck’s Keytruda in China for the same condition over the same period, according to data compiled by Guosen Securities Co. Junshi is conducting clinical trials to enter the U.S. market. (Merck does business as Merck Sharp & Dohme, or MSD, outside the U.S. and Canada.)

    Chinese companies say their medicines are structurally different from what American companies offer. “We are very confident in our own patent around the world,” says Wu Xiaobin, president of Beijing-based BeiGene, which has filed for approval for its PD-1 drug in China while it continues its international clinical trials, including in the U.S. “We have been well prepared on this because we’ve always planned to go global.”

    Jiangsu-based Innovent Biologics Inc., which also sells a PD-1 therapy in China that’s cheaper than the two foreign brands, has a licensing agreement with Eli Lilly & Co. through which the U.S. pharma giant will also be responsible for clinical trials, further development work, and marketing the medicine overseas.

    Other Chinese biotechnology companies are also preparing to enter local and overseas markets. Jiangsu Hengrui Medicine Co., one of China’s biggest drugmakers, on May 31 said its PD-1 drug had received Chinese regulatory approval. “PD-1s are at the cutting edge of science and are transforming cancer care,” says Brad Loncar, a biotech investor and chief executive officer at Loncar Investments in Lenexa, Kan. So the push by Chinese companies into these drugs won’t just “transform care in China but also have global implications,” he says.

    Foreign companies are looking to license Chinese drugs globally, says Lin Lijun, founder of Shanghai-based Loyal Valley Capital, which invests in Chinese biotech companies including Junshi. China’s health industry has benefited from increased funding and local scientists returning home after gaining experience overseas. Also, many new medicines made by local and foreign companies are now approved in a fraction of the time the process once took.

    China is new to developing innovative drugs, so managing their safety and efficacy remains a risk, says Zhang Jialin, an analyst with ICBC International. Chinese companies say their trials show their medicines are safe, and some are following up with larger studies.

    Projected Market Size of PD-1 and PD-L1 Antibody Drugs
  5. Tam

    Tam Senior Member
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    India also makes some drugs too. Blood pressure meds like the one I take --- and which the FDA has recently made recalls --- are made in two plants, one in China and one in India, with the problem samples containing trace quantities of a potential carcinogenic, coming from both. The problem arose with a recent change in the production process. Of course I am concerned.

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