Modern Firearms Website

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  1. sidewinder01
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    Have you guys come across a website called modern firearms? I have come across it several times, the website itself looks very organized and contained some good informtion about small arms produced/deployed by most nations.

    However, I have come across some very obvious errors in their data regarding some small arms.

    Example: Russian Dragunov SVD/NDM-86. In their website they stated that the effect range of svd is about 600 meters, which is absolutely false. I personally own a romainan psl SVD rifle and what I have heard, its effect range is abotu 1300 meters, I personally can hit a man sized target at 1.7meter high 9 out of 10 times at 800 yards with russian 7n1 sniper ammunition.

    Another example: Chinese m99 anti material sniper rifle, 200 meter effective range?? wtf?? a .50 bmg anti material sniper rifle only hits at 200 meters? my mosin hits better than that.

    There are several other examples like that and I stopped using modernfirearm website for small arm research/study. Have you guys notice this problem on their website?
     
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    yea that site is crap. every chinese firearm they say is a knockoff of this or that. while you have other firearms from other nations that are clearly knockoffs, but the site says nothing about it being a knockoff or lookalike. and most of the range estimates are complete false, and are even really poor attempts of estimation of the range.
     
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    Let me guess the site is Russian owned
     
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    Well i think this topic is a bit off topic, but i'll give my thought about it. The site is pretty good IMO for other weapons. I don't know if the author and the page owner is the same person since the guy in the picture is the page owner and he goes around testing and gun show I believe. About the Chinese weapons, yes it did say some of the weapon are knockoffs, but I think he toned it down recently to the type 56 and sks.
     
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    ahho, I found so many obvious errors on weapons not only from China and Russia, but also the USA.

    For example, under their description of the colt m4a1, they said the effective range was 360 meters.... I personally own an colt le6920 and on the instruction manuel it clearly said the effective range was 600YARDS. Also, they stated a colt m4 only shoot at 2.5moa? bullshit, even with wolf 55 grain ammo you can get better than that without even an optic if one is an experienced shooter, let alone using match bullets.

    Overall, I think whoever writes the articles for that website just copy and waste of all the weapon specifications from offical websites and then randomly puts in false data about different weapon systems.
     
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    Wow you own an M4 and an SVD, i'm pretty jealous, which country do you live in?

    About the site, i've found it quite informative, but can comment on its accuracy, however 600m and 800 yards is not a huge difference, also cant find the part about the m99 having only a 200m range? it did say it has a 200mm spread at 600m though

    is this the one you are talking about?

    Modern Firearms - M99
     
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    Hi does someone have a link to a chinese firearm page like this:
    ww w.gun-world. net
    Not some gun forum but a real indexed website.

    Take away blankspace
     
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    I dont have a real russian SVD, those easily got for 10000+ in the united states due to only 100 being imported. I have a romanian copy that shoots just as good as a SVD except with different stocks. And a colt m4 you can easily buy off any gun show in the usa for 1100 to 1300ish. and no im talking about the SVD mainly, it said the effective range is 600m? god please, Im novice when it come to long range shooting and I can hit 700m target with surplus ammo, I am very sure the effeective range for svd is 1200+ meters with the dedicated sniper ammo and a good scope
     
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    Ok the website only let me quote it but it says the MOA for the m99 2MOA, that means it shoots about a 2inch group spread at 100 yards. This is absolutely insulting, you can shoot 1.5MOA with just about any modern assult rifle, even the dragunov which is designed about 50 years ago and its 7.62x54r from a century ago can shoot better than that by far........ so according to the website, basically any m4 or m16 can outshoot m99 which is antimaterial SNIPER rifle in 100 yards.
     
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