Military Projects and Prototypes of the past and present

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    Aluka could you put them into a folder and upload it onto the net.
     
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    Not just allow, i insist that anyone who has info should post it here :). I think it would be fair to post those planes after they appear in quiz.
    Unlikely, it's more then 2gb.
     
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    can you make a small batch of the T-90II :)
     
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    Back on topic.

    Next two tanks turned out to be completely pointless. They were made for competition, nobody asked for. Both tanks were shown to Khruschev on 22 july 1960. After seeing several vehicles he had forbidden production and further researches of heavy tanks. Some say it was sober decision, since thanks to it we were able to create MBT concept, others claim that heavy tanks of late 50s were MBTs of the end of 20th century. However they fail to understand that soviet MBT could not have weight higher then 55 tons.


    Obiekt 277

    Constructed by VNII-100 in 1957. This tank retained some elements from Obiekt260 and T-10, but number of improvements was large enough to call the vehicle new. Front part of the hull and turret were cast, other elements were welded. Armor was made of steel and had thickness of 300mm. Turret had large bustle to house railtype autoloader (many call it Leklerk-type, but soviets were first to construct such thing). Like weapons of medium tanks maingun of 277 (130mm M-65) didn't have mask. Coupled machinegun had caliber of 14.5mm. Maingun had two-dimentional stabilisation (i am not sure, how to call it properly in english) system "Groza", automated FCS, combined commander's sight TPD-2S, IR system. Tank had V-12 engine M-850 with ejection cooling system. This engine provided 1100HP. Chassis were T-10 type with 8 roadwheels per board made of steel.
    If T-15 was ever to be made, most likely Obiekt277 would be chosen, since it was much more relyable then other heavy prototypes.

    Weight 56 tons
    Armor 120-300mm
    Weapons 130mm M-65, 14.5mm KPVT
    Ground Pressure 0.82kg/cm^2
    Max Speed 55km/h
    Tactical Range 190km

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    Obiekt 770

    Another possible T-15 was built by KB-174. Unlike 277 this tank was completely new, and had several original decisions. Uncommon to soviet tank industry of those times this one was completely cast - hull and turret were made solid. Armor was the same as of 277. Generally all mechanisms of the tank including gun and autoloader had specs similar to Obiect 277. Water-cooled DTN-10 Engine had power of 1000HP. Chassis were original, had 6 pairs of large roadwheels. Suspension was hydraulic. First in soviet production driver of the tank had rudder instead of levers.

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    Both prototypes are now in Kubinka museum in Moscow. By the way as you have probably noticed many tanks are in Kubinka now. Some photos were made by me.
     
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    More pictures of Obiekt 770:

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    When i said "lots" i was referring mostly to Al-Khalid. On ZTZ-90 i have 5 pictures, 3 pictures on ZTZ-90II, and 7 pictures on ZTZ-90III. Will post them when time will come. By the way, i don't have too many overall, 2gb is my entire collection.
     
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    Obiekt 279

    The most interesting heavy tank ever. It was created in 1957 by L. Troyanov of NII-100. This tank was created during preparation to worldwide nuclear war (which was actually accepted quite possible by soviet military analytics), and wasn't just nuclear-proof (like many later MBT's), but was designed to operate in the most epicentre of explosion, no matter how powerfull charge is. While having classic composition this tank's solutions to armor and mobility were more then just interesting. Cast turret and hull had thickness of frontal parts up to 310mm, glacis was complicated and had very high angles, making it impossible to peneterate with any shells, existing to the time. Some sources also say that tank had composite armor elements, which would even more increase it's protection. Weapons and FCS were similar to another KB's project - Obiekt277. The most interesting part of the tank was it's chassis - tank had 4 caterpillar sets, greatly decreasing ground pressure, and thus allowing this tank to operate on swampy or whinter terrain.

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    PS People, is it interesting or not? I mean does at least anybody read this topic?
     
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    ok lets post some german prototypes
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    thats egs mbt concept, just imagine a gun
    quiet similar to the american fcs

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    marder 2 prototype ,1999
     
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    isn't FCS a collection of systems and not just some next generation tank? My understanding is that it's main feature is unmanned vehicles on the ground and air, not a future tank.
     
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    however
    i mean this one
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