Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is Missing

kwaigonegin

Colonel
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China is sending 2 ships to possible LOC. I wonder if they are PLAN ships and which ones. ELT signal appears to be about 120miles south of Vietnam. It crucial they locate the pinger even if its at the bottom of the sea.
 

broadsword

Brigadier
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With the recent attacks in China, CT experts will definitely take Uigher separatists into consideration since this flight was heading to Beijing and had a lot of Chinese nationals.


Uigher separatists would be shooting themselves in the foot if they target a foreign airline, notwithstanding the majority of the passengers are Chinese.
 

no_name

Colonel
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Some reports say the plane went missing over the gulf of Thailand an area of sea with mean depth of 45m and maximum depth of 80m so chances are high that we may be able to salvage the wreakage if its location is found.
 

bluewater2012

Junior Member
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Since 9/11 all airports around the world had stepped up and beef up their security, how much is another question. If it's terrorists than it's a very sophisticated team that's behind it, meaning it would require a lot of money to obtain undetectable explosive materials to get through the screening at the airport and training.
Or if can simply be pilots/crew hijacking the plane itself. All this is speculating of course. But in the past we've heard the U.S. giving out warnings of terrorists being trained in how to operate an airplane. I may be thinking too much but there may be an Uighur/Islamic extremist sympathizer on board that flight that tries to do something crazy in wake timing of the Kunming station attacks and that most on board are ethnic Chinese. and I find interesting is the plane's first officer who is only 27 years old, (who worked there in his 20, people between this age are driven very much by emotional). Anyway, I'll stop with all these terrorist accusing now until further proof is given.
 

getready

Senior Member
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Isn't 24hrs enough time to determine the location of the wreckage. I mean the 777 is a modern plane. Surely there are GPS devices inboard to locate it even after the crash. This is 2014 not 1965. Or am I missing something?
 

joshuatree

Captain
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Isn't 24hrs enough time to determine the location of the wreckage. I mean the 777 is a modern plane. Surely there are GPS devices inboard to locate it even after the crash. This is 2014 not 1965. Or am I missing something?

Depends on if the devices are still functioning. Also, it depends on what equipment the Malaysians and Vietnamese are employing out there doing the search. While floating debris was found within days, I don't think Flight 447's wreckage and black boxes were found till almost two years later and employing many subs, TAS, hydrophones, etc.
 

getready

Senior Member
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Depends on if the devices are still functioning. Also, it depends on what equipment the Malaysians and Vietnamese are employing out there doing the search. While floating debris was found within days, I don't think Flight 447's wreckage and black boxes were found till almost two years later and employing many subs, TAS, hydrophones, etc.

I see. Thanks. Still confounds me when we are in the year 2014 and we can't locate a massive commercial airliner with these sophisticated equipment onboard. Of we are purely relying on visual clues I can understand. But tracking devices are so modern these days surely their search and rescue team can detect the signal from the black box or something.
 

Franklin

Captain
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Interesting bit of news from CNN. Apparently at least 2 persons on the flight were carrying stolen passport. As Malaysian Airlines publicize the passenger list the Italian and Austrian governments denies that any of their citizens were on board the plane. The passport of those persons were stolen years ago and the persons in question are safely back in their home countries. So we could be talking about terrorism here but lets not make too many overdrawn conclusions for now.

What happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370?

The closest thing to a clue in the search for a missing commercial jetliner are oil slicks in the Gulf of Thailand where all contact was lost with the flight, which was en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

A Vietnamese search plane, part of a massive, multinational search effort, spotted the oil slicks that stretch between 6 and 9 miles, the Vietnam government's official news agency reported. The traces of oil were found about 90 miles south of Tho Chu Island, the report said, in the same area where the flight disappeared from radar early Saturday morning.

The oil discovery only added to a growing list of questions about the fate of the plane carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew members: When and where did the plane go, and who exactly was on board?

"It has been more than 24 hours since we last heard from MH370. ...The search and rescue team is yet to determine the whereabouts of the Boeing 777-200 aircraft," the airline said in a statement posted to its website. At this stage, search and rescue efforts "have failed to find evidence of any wreckage."

In the meantime, the search area in the South China Sea is being expanded and efforts to locate the plane will continue overnight and into early Sunday morning, said Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, director general of civil aviation in Malaysia.

Passenger manifest questioned

Bits and pieces of information have begun to form, but it remains unclear how they fit into the bigger picture, if at all.

For instance, after the airline released a manifest, Austria denied that one of its citizens was aboard the flight. The Austrian citizen was safe and sound, and his passport had been stolen two years ago, Austrian Foreign Ministry spokesman Martin Weiss told CNN.

Similarly, Italy's foreign ministry confirmed that no Italians were on MH370, even though an Italian was listed on the manifest. Police in Italy said the man's passport was stolen last year.

A U.S. intelligence official said authorities are aware of reporting about lost or stolen passports used by passengers on the missing flight.

"No nexus to terrorism yet," the official said, "although that's by no means definitive. We're still tracking."

Malaysian authorities reiterated during a news conference that they are not ruling anything out regarding the missing aircraft.


China, Vietnam, Singapore and Malaysia were conducting search and rescue operations south of Tho Chu island in the South China Sea, according to the airline and reports from Xinhua, China's official news agency. Ships, helicopters and airplanes are being utilized.

The USS Pinckney, a destroyer conducting training in the South China Sea, is being routed to the southern Vietnamese coast to aid in the search, the U.S. Navy said. The United States is also sending a P-3C Orion surveillance plane from Japan to provide long-range search, radar and communications capabilities, the Navy said.

Meanwhile, the Chinese Coast Guard has ordered on-duty vessels to aid in the search, Xinhua reported, citing government officials. China also sent a diving and salvage team to the area where the airplane is suspected to have gone down, as well as a Coast Guard vessel, the news agency reported.

Even so, officials appeared resigned to accepting the worst outcome.

"I'd just like to say our thoughts and prayers are with the bereaved families," Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said during a news conference.

Grief, especially in China

More than half the passengers were Chinese.

Relatives of the 154 Chinese citizens on board gathered Saturday at a hotel complex in the Lido district of Beijing as a large crowd of reporters gathered outside.

"My son was only 40 years old," one woman wailed as she was led inside. "My son, my son. What am I going to do?"

Family members were kept in a hotel conference room, where media outlets had no access. Most of the familymembers have so far refused to talk to reporters. The airline said the public can call +603 7884 1234 for further information.

The Boeing 777-200 ER departed Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 12:41 a.m. and was expected to land in Beijing at 6:30 a.m., a 2,300-mile (3,700 kilometer) trip. It never arrived.

The plane carried 227 passengers, including five children under 5 years old, and 12 crew members, the airline said. Air traffic control in Subang, in Malaysia, had last contact with the plane.

At the time of its disappearance, the Malaysia Airlines plane was carrying about 7.5 hours of fuel, an airline official said.

Among the passengers there were 154 people from China or Taiwan; 38 Malaysians, and three U.S. citizens.

The airline's website said the flight was piloted by a veteran.

Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a 53-year-old Malaysian, has 18,365 total flying hours and joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981, the website said. The first officer is Fariq Ab Hamid, 27, a Malaysian with a total of 2,763 flying hours. He joined Malaysia Airlines in 2007.

Still an 'urgent need' to find plane

"The lack of communications suggests to me that something most unfortunate has happened," said Mary Schiavo, former inspector general of the U.S. Department of Transportation, in an interview with CNN International.

"But that, of course, does not mean that there are not many persons that need to be rescued and secured. There's still a very urgent need to find that plane and to render aid," she said.

Malaysia Airlines operates in Southeast Asia, East Asia, South Asia, the Middle East and on the route between Europe and Australasia.

It has 15 Boeing 777-200 ER planes in its fleet, CNN's Richard Quest reported. The missing airplane was delivered to Malaysia Airlines in 2002.

Part of the company is in the private sector, but the government owns most of it.

Malayan Airways Limited began flying in 1937 as an air service between Penang and Singapore. A decade later, it began flying commercially as the national airline.

In 1963, when Malaysia was formed, the airline was renamed Malaysian Airlines Limited.

Within 20 years, it had grown from a single aircraft operator into a company with 2,400 employees and a fleet operator.

If this aircraft has crashed with a total loss, it would the deadliest aviation incident since November 2001, when an American Airlines Airbus A300 crashed in Belle Harbor, Queens, shortly after takeoff from JFK Airport. Killed were 265 people, including five people on the ground.

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Rutim

Banned Idiot
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Interesting bit of news from CNN. Apparently at least 2 persons on the flight were carrying stolen passport. As Malaysian Airlines publicize the passenger list the Italian and Austrian governments denies that any of their citizens were on board the plane. The passport of those persons were stolen years ago and the persons in question are safely back in their home countries. So we could be talking about terrorism here but lets not make too many overdrawn conclusions for now.
I'd rather say that's some intelligence 'games' here rather than terrorists who have a purpose to hijack a plane and a clear plan to use it in some way rather than crushing into the ocean. I didn't know they use stolen toursist's documents though ;) You might live a nice life on the other side of the globe without even realising it.
 

kroko

Senior Member
Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

Since there is no thread about it, i will start one.

A malaysia Airlines plane is missing since friday in a flight from kuala Lumpur to beijing. Most probably it has crashed in the sea. The plane had 239 people on board, including 153 chinese.

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Now it is being reported that two people boarded the plane with stolen passports.

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