logistics problem

MadMax

Junior Member
china has so many different types of ammunition is it going to cause a problem.
for example why dose the airborne ifv use a 30 mm gun and the type 92 uses 25 mm why didnt they use the same gun or one that uses the same ammo. in the event of a war this could cause huge problems.
 

ahho

Junior Member
hmmm maybe they are switching to 30mm because most of the apc/ifv that use 25mm is older and considering that the airborn and bmp-3 derivative are new projects
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
yeah, that may be a problem, but bullets are really never so critical. if anyone has to worry of logistics, that india
 

Dongfeng

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My feeling is that the PLA is rushing to get new toys and haven't thought about it too much. You get 25mm cannon and 30mm cannon, both of which are excellent in certain aspects. Which do you choose? let's have them both!:confused:
 

adeptitus

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MadMax said:
china has so many different types of ammunition is it going to cause a problem.
for example why dose the airborne ifv use a 30 mm gun and the type 92 uses 25 mm why didnt they use the same gun or one that uses the same ammo. in the event of a war this could cause huge problems.

Look at many country's artillery systems, they have everything from 75mm to 203mm guns in various calibers. The newest PLA artillery are 155mm/45 caliber, but what are you going to do with the 15,000+ artillery pieces in existing inventory?

If we examine cost of modern self-propelled artillery systems, I think Kuwait paid about $300 million for 72 PLZ-45 from China? That's $4.16 mil each. India allocated $2 billion USD to purchase 400 x 155mm SP artillery systems, that's an average cost of $5 million USD each.

If we were to assume that each PLZ-45 costs $4 million USD, that's $4 billion for 1,000, or $40 billion USD for 10,000 units. $_$
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
adeptitus said:
Look at many country's artillery systems, they have everything from 75mm to 203mm guns in various calibers. The newest PLA artillery are 155mm/45 caliber, but what are you going to do with the 15,000+ artillery pieces in existing inventory?

If we examine cost of modern self-propelled artillery systems, I think Kuwait paid about $300 million for 72 PLZ-45 from China? That's $4.16 mil each. India allocated $2 billion USD to purchase 400 x 155mm SP artillery systems, that's an average cost of $5 million USD each.

If we were to assume that each PLZ-45 costs $4 million USD, that's $4 billion for 1,000, or $40 billion USD for 10,000 units. $_$

there is no way the pla wants to have 10000 units. they only have a few dozen now, and plan to replace it with the plz-03
 

lazzydigger

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I don't think it will cause too much a fuss.
PLA is a very very large organisation, but not all of its force are frontline that needs strong logistic support.

All the new toys are concentrated in a few elite army groups. The army group logistic corp can handle them as the standarisation accross the army group and army group only.

For example, The 14.5 anti aircraft machine guns are only used in reserve units and Militiaman. It still type classfied, but the ammo is stationed with those units, and there are not urgent replenish requirement

Lazzy digger
 

sumdud

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The ammo is not the problem.
Even if China is switching from Russian calibers to Western ones, China has too much ammo to call it a problem.
The problem is more for its RRU.
China really needs more transports.
India has more Il-76s than China, and China barely have any Y-8s really.
And you can't run vehicles on coal.

Another problem I've heard about here: Flightsuits.
Each fighter has its own type of suit. (.................)

And if China needs to move their tanks on civilian roads, it's over.
China's "interstate autobahn" is a mess. The numbers are just #$%^#$%#.
And there aren't much roads in the West. (Which I guess doesn't really matter....)
 

darth sidious

Banned Idiot
SUMDUD where did you get the info that chinese tanks can not travel on civilain roads the "state road " built in the 50s can handle the T-96 tank the real problme is that there is not enough the ons they have are ok
 
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