Lockheed Martin Reveals SR-72, the SR-71 Successor

hardware

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according to a japanese newspaper, US is considering bring back SR-71 to pacific as a insurance,uncase US IMINT satelite were destroy or damage by Chinese ASAT.

Not true, but sooner than you think there will be an SR-72..read down to post #10!
 
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Lezt

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Re: US may bring back SR-71

mmmhmmm seems like a fanboy idea to mean, why bring a retired bird design from the 1970s back to the modern era when you can prolly have a F22 with an observation pod doing the same job.

Mach 3.3 and a service ceiling of 26 km does not mean much to a mordern SAMs which can engage up to Mach 8 targets.
 

Pointblank

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Re: US may bring back SR-71

mmmhmmm seems like a fanboy idea to mean, why bring a retired bird design from the 1970s back to the modern era when you can prolly have a F22 with an observation pod doing the same job.

Mach 3.3 and a service ceiling of 26 km does not mean much to a mordern SAMs which can engage up to Mach 8 targets.

Actually, altitude and speed does matter; at such altitudes and speeds that the SR-71 operates at, SAM's have very little energy to maneuver to make an intercept. Very few SAM's have the performance necessary to even attempt an intercept, and even then, it is a crapshoot. Many SAM's don't even have the ability to intercept targets above
 
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Lezt

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Re: US may bring back SR-71

Actually, altitude and speed does matter; at such altitudes and speeds that the SR-71 operates at, SAM's have very little energy to maneuver to make an intercept. Very few SAM's have the performance necessary to even attempt an intercept, and even then, it is a crapshoot. Many SAM's don't even have the ability to intercept targets above

It is a hard to convice case. If I can have an F22 fly at 20 KM at mach 2.2 vs the black bird flying at 26 km at Mach 3.3, I would choose the F22 which is much harder to detect.

We are talking about China here, If Chinese ASAT can hit a satellite; smaller, flying faster and higher than the SR71 could; why not an SR71?

What about the numerous intercepts by Mig 25 and 31 over europe during the 1980s coming within 1.6 nm for simulated missile attack every time? Or even the Swedish intercepting it with the Saab 37
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The never intercepted SR71 is a myth
 

bd popeye

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hardware, Please post a source for your claim even if it is in Japanese.

according to a japanese newspaper, US is considering bring back SR-71 to pacific as a insurance,uncase US IMINT satelite were destroy or damage by Chinese ASAT.

No way. There are none left. ZERO. Only museum aircraft and two other non-flyable aircraft..

Where's the money coming from to build new aircraft? Where would the parts come from to re-furbish museum aircraft?

from wiki;

In 1968, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara canceled the F-12 interceptor program; the specialized tooling used to manufacture both the YF-12 and the SR-71 was also ordered destroyed. Production of the SR-71 totaled 32 aircraft with 29 SR-71As, 2 SR-71Bs, and the single SR-71C.

This was written in 1995 siting reasons not to retire the Blackbird the first time!;

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And this in wiki;

Final retirement

The reactivation met much resistance: the Air Force had not budgeted for the aircraft, and UAV developers worried that their programs would suffer if money was shifted to support the SR-71s. Also, with the allocation requiring yearly reaffirmation by Congress, long-term planning for the SR-71 was difficult. In 1996, the Air Force claimed that specific funding had not been authorized, and moved to ground the program. Congress reauthorized the funds, but, in October 1997, President Bill Clinton attempted to use the line-item veto to cancel the $39 million allocated for the SR-71. In June 1998, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the line-item veto was unconstitutional. All this left the SR-71's status uncertain until September 1998, when the Air Force called for the funds to be redistributed. The plane was permanently retired in 1998. The Air Force quickly disposed of their SR-71s, leaving NASA with the two last airworthy Blackbirds until 1999. All other Blackbirds have been moved to museums except for the two SR-71s and a few D-21 drones retained by the NASA Dryden Flight Research Center.


Bottom line.. not going to happen.
 
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Jeff Head

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Re: US may bring back SR-71

according to a japanese newspaper, US is considering bring back SR-71 to pacific as a insurance,uncase US IMINT satelite were destroy or damage by Chinese ASAT.
Link to source? Or name and issue of the newspaper and story?

Even if such is opined, it is simply not going to happen.

And why should it? They would have to be new builds, and the US has been operating something for the last 20 years that took its place. SR-75, Aurora, etc. whatever it may be called.

Black projects did not cease with the Blackbird. In the 1960s and 1970s the Blackbird was seen and heard in the west, but we did not know what it was...and even when it began to leak, the government did not acknowledge it.

Now, something faster, more stealthy, and far more exotic is flying...there can be no doubt of this. Far too many private citizen sightings. We just do not know what it is, and will not know what it is probably until several years after it has been retired too.

So...no, there will not be any more SR-71 flights.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Re: US may bring back SR-71

and Even if you don't believe in Aurora The Us kept a number of U2's uptodate and inservice which are projected for a life span into 2015 and possibly beyond. Add to that that the US is actively developing a number of high altitude long endurance UAV's like the Global observer, the Vulture, solar Eagle and the Phantom Eye. Which are I argue designed to flood the skies with a large number of low cost pseudo-Satellites.
 

bd popeye

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Re: US may bring back SR-71

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Exactly..

hardware, We really would like you to post the article you based this thread on. We'd all like to read it. Thanks!;)

If you do not have it ..that's ok. Just let us know.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Re: US may bring back SR-71

I took the liberty of putting the evil minions of Google to work looking For SR71 news I got A whole lot of hits form Chinese websites Which mention the "Japanese Article" also got a bunch of hits on a Ausi who built a remote control Model out of lego's
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A new spy plane need U.S. commander in China mind
2013.7.25 16:43 [ U.S. ]
 The 24th, in mind China to advance not bring it close to their waters the U.S. military the "access denial strategy", a new reconnaissance aircraft that can break through the defenses of the enemy and we need Kohler commander of the U.S. Strategic Command is (Air Chief Marshal) I made it clear idea of. I said in an interview with some media, such as Kyodo news agency.

 I declined to mention the concrete specifications of reconnaissance aircraft. U.S. magazine Foreign Policy (electronic version), you are like a supersonic reconnaissance aircraft SR71 that was used in reconnaissance against the Soviet Union during the Cold War, it's remarks with a view to the revival of stealth reconnaissance aircraft capable of long-distance flight . Mr. Kohler stressed that "need to counter the approach denial strategy" he said. It said, "potential threat in space is increasing," and based on the (ASAT) development satellite weapons by the Chinese, it was acknowledged that to prepare for things that will not be able to communicate and reconnaissance by the U.S. military satellite is the essential further . (Co-)
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A article in reaction to a article? this might be the first of it all.
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bd popeye

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thanks TNEE! ..looks like this is all speculation and "guesstimate" form the translation.
 
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