Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)

Jeff Head

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Jura said:
the number appears to have grown from 32 to 35 recently:

"A committee staffer said HASC determined the Navy’s one-LCS request was “damaging to the two construction yards” – the Navy had previously said it needed to buy three a year to maintain shipyard efficiencies and to keep both Austal USA and Fincantieri’s Marinette Marine healthy ahead of the frigate competition next year – and so the subcommittee recommended the full committee include funding for three ships. That would put the Navy at 35 LCSs total, compared to its stated need of 32, ..."

etc., source is USNI News linked Apr 26, 2018
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I knew that therer were going to be 29 before all is said and done...but 24 is a number that will soon be the total number building or launched.

Right now, each class has 11 vessels that have been lad down or already launched and the next one each lays down witll bring the total for both classes to 24. That is what I was referring to.

Although I truly wish they would just top thee and get on about a larger number of FFGs, each class has 15 planned at this point and for whatever reason the Navy is hlding firm to that commitment.

They can and truly must uparm every single one of them with the things I have spoken of here so many times...but we would be better of halting ny more construction and building more true multi-purpose FFGs, and building 24-30 of those.

oh well...time will tell.
 
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dtulsa

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A question if one of the foreign designs are chosen for the FFGX would foreign orders be made in the US or at the foreign shipyards or could they be split between the 2 countries seeing that each foreign design would be equipped and outfitted to US specs. and equipment
 
Jura The idiot

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Jeff Head said:
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Having 28+ )now) hulls that can operate with they type f armament we discused, and then be used for PhibRon or even CSG ASW escort ptraol would be a very good thing. They will have the helos, they will have some decent detectors, and they are faConceivably fast enough if they shot is fired far enough away to maintain a lead on the topr until it runs out of fuel, while their helos prosecute the sub. Once it fires, it completely goves away its position and should allow the Seahawks to put them down.

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oh ... so LCSs are going to run off Opfor torps in your setup here Jeff?
 
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dtulsa

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Jura said:
oh ... so LCSs are going to run off Opfor torps in your setup here Jeff?
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If they don't break down first I'm sorry to say that too they were totally ill conceived designed and mismanaged from the start of
the process same as all the new systems The Zummies The F35 all these systems goes to show that to many new technology isn't always the best way to go @ least when when you try to cram it in one package with concurrency forgot to mention the one real big one too the Ford class
 
Jeff Head

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Jura said:
oh ... so LCSs are going to run off Opfor torps in your setup here Jeff?
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NO, I am just saying depending on the geometry af an attack, the LC has the speed to potentilly out run an opfor torpedo.

They need to be built to be able to prosecute and sink enemy subs.
 
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dtulsa

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Jeff Head said:
NO, I am just saying depending on the geometry af an attack, the LC has the speed to potentilly out run an opfor torpedo.

They need to be built to be able to prosecute and sink enemy subs.
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A simple question if they don't use any type of ASROC launcher could they be modified for surface launch torpedo launchers be added such as the triple launcher for the mk50 or 54 torpedo easily seems as though they could
 
Jura The idiot

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Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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Jeff Head said:
NO, I am just saying depending on the geometry af an attack, the LC has the speed to potentilly out run an opfor torpedo.

They need to be built to be able to prosecute and sink enemy subs.
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my imagination of the USN tactics is the warship would have
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and wouldn't try to outrun the torp (increasing the warship's speed would be helping the torp's sensors)
 
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dtulsa

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Jura said:
now I decided to show you what I showed you almost four years ago, which is some LCSs have been overweight already then:

#528 Jura, Aug 1, 2014


you of course kept "arming them up" (so did the Pentagon, no?)
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Of course it was one of known flaws of the designs so yet again the contractor's make more money by removing unessasary items like the launching system for the RHIBS etc. Not needed to much in a real frigate also in this case the modules would go and we would end up with exactly the same designs that the Saudis have
 
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