Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)

Jeff Head

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Well, I have a prediction.

The Harpoon will work on the LCS.

This was a photo op...nothing more or less. Meant to convey intent to allies and potential adversaries alike that the US is going to up arm these vessels.

With as many Harpoons as are out there and with as much experience as the US and it allies have with the system, do you really think it is not going to work?

Please.

Of course it will work.

I personally really like the Norwegian missile and hope that it gets a "shot" so to speak on one of the variants. either would be fine with me in the short term...with perhaps the LRSAM in the long run.

We shall see.
 

Jeff Head

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Right now IIRC only Indepedence class have fired SSMs, without tests Freedom can or need it ?
Yes...they most definitely need to test them and do so successfully.

But they will. The decision has been made to up arm them and the US Navy will get it done.

But they do not need to make a party out of it...or a press orgy of some kind. They just need to do the job...which I have every confidence that they ultimately will do.
 
interestingly Raytheon to Manufacture Naval Strike Missile Launchers in Kentucky
Raytheon is set to build launchers for the Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile at its facility where it constructs the SeaRAM and Phalanx close-in weapon systems, company officials told USNI News on Tuesday.

The NSM is one of three expected weapons to compete for the over the horizon missile program for the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) and follow-on frigate program as well as the Navy’s Offensive Anti-Surface Warfare
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The Navy test fired a NSM from Independence-class LCS
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Lockheed Martin’s Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM) and a modified Boeing Harpoon anti-ship missile are also likely competitors for the OTH program.

Then Navy director of surface warfare Rear Adm. Peter Fanta told USNI News the service aimed to field the missile by the end of the year as part of the Navy’s distributed lethality push.

“I’m looking at a number of missiles – not just
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and several other missiles. What bolts on, and what can I put on a console that has feeds from the combat system? … I’m trying to do that, again, if I can get enough engineering done to allow me to do this, I’m trying to do that this year,” Fanta said.
Last month, Raytheon announced the company had finalized a deal with Kongsberg to build the NSM in Tucson, Ariz.
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Naval Today said:
Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus has officially confirmed the October 22, 2016 date for the commissioning of the recently delivered USS Detroit.

The U.S. Navy previously accepted delivery of future USS Detroit (LCS 7) during a ceremony at the Fincantieri Marinette Marine shipyard on August 12.

Following its commissioning, the ship will make its first international port call when it sails across the Detroit River on Monday, October 24 to spend four days in Windsor, Ontario.

A Freedom-class littoral combat ship, the USS Detroit is the sixth U.S. Navy ship to bear the city’s name. The previous USS Detroit (CL 8), a light cruiser, was one of the few ships to get underway during the attack on Pearl Harbor and earned six Battle Stars during WWII. She was moored with the battleship USS Missouri during the surrender ceremony in Tokyo Bay in 1945.

The new USS Detroit was launched and christened on October 18, 2014 by Barbara Levin, the ship’s sponsor and wife of long serving, retired United States Senator Carl Levin, during ceremonies at the Marinette Marine Shipyard. The USS Detroit will be commissioned on the Detroit, Michigan, waterfront on October 22, 2016.
This means that come October 22nd, the US Navy will have eight LCS commissioned:

Freedom variant
USS Freedom (LCS-1)
USS Fort Worth (LCS-3)
USS Milwaukee (LCS-5)
USS Detroit (LCS-7)

Independence variant
USS Independence (LCS-2)
USS Coronado (LCS-4)
USS Jackson (LCS-6)
USS Montgomery (LCS-8)

...and four more launched (meaning twelve vessels in the water):

Freedom variant
USS Little Rock (LCS-9) USS Gabrielle Giffords (LCS-10)
USS Sioux City (LCS-11) USS Omaha (LCS-12)

Independence variant
USS Montgomery (LCS-8)
USS Gabrielle Giffords (LCS-10)

..and four more laid down and under construction:

Freedom variant
USS Wichita (LCS-13)
USS Billings (LCS-15)

Independence variant
USS Manchester (LCS-14)
USS Tulsa (LCS-16)

That's a total of sixteen when including the four that are building.

The program is really taking off now.
 

SouthernSky

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Raytheon to construct NSM launchers in Kentucky. The missile is competing to equip the LCS and future US frigate program.

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A Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile (NSM) is launched from the littoral combat ship USS Coronado (LCS 4) during missile testing operations off the coast of Southern California in September 2014. US Navy photo.

LOUISVILLE, KY. – Raytheon is set to build launchers for the Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile at its facility where it constructs the SeaRAM and Phalanx close-in weapon systems, company officials told USNI News on Tuesday.

The NSM is one of three expected weapons to compete for the over the horizon missile program for the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) and follow-on frigate program as well as the Navy’s Offensive Anti-Surface Warfare
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The Navy test fired a NSM from Independence-class LCS
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Lockheed Martin’s Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM) and a modified Boeing Harpoon anti-ship missile are also likely competitors for the OTH program.

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An undated photo of a Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile in flight. Kongsberg Photo

Then Navy director of surface warfare Rear Adm. Peter Fanta told USNI News the service aimed to field the missile by the end of the year as part of the Navy’s distributed lethality push.

“I’m looking at a number of missiles – not just
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and several other missiles. What bolts on, and what can I put on a console that has feeds from the combat system? … I’m trying to do that, again, if I can get enough engineering done to allow me to do this, I’m trying to do that this year,” Fanta said.
Last month, Raytheon announced the company had finalized a deal with Kongsberg to build the NSM in Tucson, Ariz.
 

Jeff Head

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Raytheon to construct NSM launchers in Kentucky. The missile is competing to equip the LCS and future US frigate program.
The NSM wuld be a good addition to the USN.

For the opnger range targets, the LRSAM is going to be the answer IMHO, though we also have the capability to use the Tomahawk Tactical IV for that as well.

The Harpoon can remain for missions in between the two of those.

We shall see. Maybe they break the NSM on the Independence variant of the LCS and the FF, and go from there. I hope it finds a home in the USN< whhich will open other doors for it amongst our allies.
 
Jul 23, 2016
Mar 29, 2016

an update:
LCS Fort Worth’s Return Journey Brightens
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The month-long trans-Pacific journey isn’t expected to begin until mid or late August.
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The official command report on the mishap is still being reviewed by the Pacific Fleet, Ramsden said, adding that a redacted version is expected to be released “within weeks.”
updating again:
VIDEO: After Successful Repair USS Fort Worth Leaves Singapore for San Diego
After several uncertain months, the littoral combat ship USS Fort Worth (LCS-3) is steaming to its San Diego, Calif. homeport after the ship’s propulsion system was damaged in Singapore, the service announced on Monday.

Industry and service sources told USNI News that not only was damage from the Jan. 12 engine casualty that sidelined the Freedom-class LCS wasn’t as extensive as initially thought but also the repair was an unexpected successful test of the forward deployed maintenance model set up to repair the ships that can deploy forward for up to a year-and-a-half at a time.

“There are a lot of people who worked very hard to get Fort Worth repaired and back out to sea,” said Capt. H.B. Le, commodore, Destroyer Squadron 7, said in a statement.
“Their efforts were rewarded today as the ship got underway, fully operational, and ready for her transit across the Pacific.”
During the Jan. 12 incident, bearings in the ship’s combining gears — the complex gearing that links the output of the ships’ Rolls Royce MT30 gas turbine engines with its Colt-Pielstick diesel engines and then to the ship’s shafts that drive the water jets.

“Damage to the ship’s combining gears was less extensive than initial investigations suggested,” read a Monday statement from the service.
“A full assessment revealed that only three bearings needed to be replaced, and the repairs took less time and cost less than originally expected.”

In April, the Navy had planned for the ship to transit back to San Diego using the MT30 turbines for planned repairs in California at a loss of fuel efficiency and speed. The decision came as U.S

However the fix, completed at the Changi Naval Base in Singapore, will allow the ship to return normally.

A Navy investigation into the incident found that operator error during a diesel engine test was the cause of the damage to the combining gear. As a result of the investigation the commander of LCS Crew 101, Cmdr. Michael Atwell, was relieved of command in March.

Prior to the engine casualty, the Lockheed Martin-built Fort Worth had a largely successful deployment to Singapore and performed better than a previous deployment of the USS Freedom (LCS-1).

A month before Fort Worth, Freedom-class LCS USS Milwaukee (LCS-5) suffered an unrelated combining gear casualty. Investigators found it was primarily a software problem that caused Milwaukee’s casualty.
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