Large Amphibious Assault Vessels

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    It's capable of handling the mission, but ship compatibility trials need to take place to make sure that whatever they intend to fly off of her won't cause damage or interfere with operations, and if modifications are identified, they need to happen. Also space needs to be allocated to store tooling, spare parts, places to conduct maintenance, munitions, etc. Lots of work and paperwork to do and sometimes navies will forgo such work.
     
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    That video was shot in March. And that was just half of the Island. I wonder if the whole thing has been lifted on deck by now?
     
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    Yeah, but those aren't show stoppers if they want to. The ships are clearly designed with STOVL in mind...
     
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    The fact that the Australian Navy left the ski-ramp on there says that they reserved that capability so they could add it later any time they want.

    Those vessels were designed specifically for STOVL for Harriers, Ospreys and ultimately for F-35Bs. The Spanish intend to use them that way for sure...and I expect ultimately the Australians will too. The only question really is whether they will buy F-35Bs or not, and if so, how many?
     
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    USS America, LHA-6, returns from successful builder's sea trials


    [video=youtube;-vnGdIdPG5E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vnGdIdPG5E[/video]

     
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    With the Rise of the LHA 6 comes the retirement of the Tarawa Class LHA, Someone however wants to extend the life of one of these Gator Carriers. The Coalition of Hope has a neat Idea. They want to repurpose the former USS Nassau.
    Navy Asked to Donate Ex. USS Nassau to Support Humanitarian Relief Worldwide - Defense Update - Military Technology & Defense News

    The Coalition of Hope
    They call it Project Excelsior
    Basicly they would take the Nassau,
    Class & type: Tarawa-class amphibious assault ship
    Tonnage: 25,884 tons
    Displacement: 39,300 tons
    Length: 833.34 ft (254.00 m)
    Beam: 106.6 ft (32.5 m)
    Draft: 26.25 ft (8.00 m)
    Propulsion: Steam Turbine
    Speed: 24 knots (44 km/h)
    Troops: 1,900+ Marines
    Complement: 82 officers, 882 enlisted men
    Armament: 2 × RAM launchers
    4 × 25 mm Mk 38 cannons
    2 × Phalanx CIWS
    5 × .50-caliber M2HB machine guns
    Aircraft carried: 6 AV-8B Harrier attack planes, 4 AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopters, 12 CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters, 9 CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopters, 4 UH-1N Huey helicopters, V-22 Ospreys
    Strip out all the Weapons, refurbish her, Paint her like a hospital ship and use her as a amphibious aid platform. this makes a lot of sense as the mission profiles of Amphibious assault and Humanitarian disaster relief are actually almost identical case in point the Philippines right now.
     
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    I read about this.

    But, frankly, I do not see it happening. Unless it were operated by the US Military (or perhaps one of our closest allies), I just do not see the US military agreeing to take one of our heretofor front line vessels, which is still a very capable design, and open it up this way.

    Maybe Obama will do it...but I would council strongly against it.

    They could build a commercial vessel for the price of the upgrade/refit and it would be a lot cheaper to operate.
     
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    Presumably the navy could operate it as part of the auxiliary fleet like the RoRo transports and oiler's. In the end though I suspect you are likely correct that a commercial design would be used.
     
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    So, turn it into a USNS instead of a USS?

    That would entail that they meet some very specific requirements.

    Is that what the Coalition of Hope is proposing?

    Somehow I do not think so.

    Especially when I read their proposal to make it available to a, "partnership with a broad coalition of nations, Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) and others", I shudder to think who all would be onboard and operting it. They even say they want to retain the vast Command and Control capabilities of the vessel to direct other assets.

    Anyhow, the vessel was built to military combat standards, and has a lot of sensitive military technology built into it, even if you take the weapons and combat sensors off of it, including:

    The entire well deck design and functioning
    The design and layout of the vehicle decks
    The Hanger spaces
    The Elevators
    The Command and Control spaces
    The Structutre of the vessels right down to its its ballast arrangement
    etc.

    I just do not see the US military signing up for making that available to civilian crews involved specifically in those kind of missions.

    I guess we will wait and see.
     
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    Well she already lost the USS, Nassau was decommissioned in 2011.
     
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