JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

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Ideas about the JF-17 Block-III’s electronics suite

Note: This is a continuation of one Quwa’s earliest articles – “
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” – with updates accommodating recent defence industry events and trends. This is a look at the potential of the JF-17 Block-III in becoming a relatively sophisticated combat solution, albeit if current and emerging technologies are incorporated into the design.


With a fifth JF-17 unit scheduled to be raised soon (replacing another F-7P squadron) and the JF-17B twin-seat variant coming to fruition, the Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) newest fighter platform is evidently forming the mainstay of the PAF fighter fleet. In fact, it appears that the PAF is aiming to entirely supplant its F-7P and FT-7P fleet with the JF-17 Block-II, Now, momentum is beginning to shift to the JF-17 Block-III.

Slotted to utilize an active electronically-scanned array (AESA) radar, improved electronics warfare (EW) and countermeasures (ECM) systems, helmet-mounted display and sight (HMD/S) and potentially even infrared search-and-track (IRST), the JF-17 Block-III is effectively the PAF’s only qualitative driver (in the absence of an off-the-shelf platform) on its
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In terms of the AESA radar, arguably the centerpiece of the JF-17 Block-III, analysts have listed two radars as the leading candidates: The Leonardo (formerly Finmeccanica and Selex)
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and the
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Both radars are compelling options, but ultimately, the procurement of an AESA radar is essential, for its advantages over legacy mechanically-steered pulse-Doppler radars are genuine qualitative gains, especially in defensibility against EW/ECM (this is explained in greater detail in an
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However, radars are not the only application for AESA TRMs. Defence electronics vendors are also using this TRM technology on EW and ECM suites. For example, Italy’s
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is such a solution, providing digital radio-frequency memory (DRFM) active jamming (explained in Quwa’s
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on radar technology) and E-J band frequency coverage. Turkey’s Aselsan is also marketing a
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. NRIET could also developing analogous EW hardware (for pairing with the KLJ-7A AESA radar).

Irrespective of the origin, the pairing of an AESA radar with AESA-based EW/ECM would be significant. If the components (e.g. radar warning receiver, jammer, etc) of the EW/ECM suite are properly integrated, and in turn, fully presented in the human-machine-interface (HMI), the pilot would acquire a ‘picture’ of an area’s electronics dynamics – the EW/ECM suite could identify and locate enemy radars.

The HMI standards set by the F-35 Lightning II and Saab JAS-39E/F (with the signature single-display cockpit) are being emulated by other vendors, including the
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and Aselsan (via the
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and
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). (Interestingly, the HMD/S space is confined to a relatively few vendors. Elbit maintaining its position as the dominant supplier in the West and in the East, though BAE Systems and Thales have carved respectable spaces.)

In 2016,
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had begun seeing traction with the Royal Air Force (RAF). The BriteCloud is an expendable decoy with a self-contained DRFM-based jammer, which is meant to help thwart incoming radar-guided air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles. The BriteCloud ECM can be placed in an aircraft’s existing chaff and flare dispenser system and self-protection suite. Aselsan is marketing an analogous solution, which it designated as the ‘
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. The concept is evidently not novel, credible vendors such as NRIET should have limited difficulty in expanding the market.

Contingent on cost and feasibility, these subsystems and approaches could manifest in the JF-17 Block-III. Granted, this would only be a part of the ideal solution, with the rest dedicated to much-needed technology improvements, such as supplanting the hybrid flight control system with a fully-digital fly-by-wire system, reducing the airframe’s weight and increasing its payload.

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Here it is guys No14 re-equipped with JF17

We can see the first block II with IFR leading at the front
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Pakistan formally equips fifth JF-17 squadron

No. 14 had previously been flying F-7P and FT-7Ps, which are Chinese-built variants of the Mikoyan MiG-21. Prior to the F-7P, No. 14 was one of the initial users of the PAF’s F-16A/B Block-15s.

With No. 14, the PAF operates five JF-17 units comprising of four operational fighter squadrons (i.e.
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, No. 14, No. 16 and No. 26) and a training unit at
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For combat Sqns the 2 first have do transition from A-5, the 3th F-7P after Mirages maybe
 
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The Pakistan Air Force officially stood up its fifth JF-17 squadron today, AirForces Monthly’s correspondent Alan Warnes reports.

No 14 Air Superiority Squadron, known as ‘The Tail Choppers’, is based at PAF Base Minhas and is the second to re-equip with Block 2 JF-17 aircraft. However, it the first to fly the Block 2 operationally with the air-to-air refuelling probe fitted.

Prior to re-equipping with the Thunder, No 14 Squadron had operated the F-7P since September 1993.

The event also recognised Pakistan Aeronautical Complex Kamra’s feat of building and delivering 16 aircraft to the PAF in 2016, for the second consecutive year.


PAF JF-17 introduction at no. 14 Sqn - 16-232 - 8.jpg
 

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Chief of Senegal Air Force calls on Air Chief Sohail Aman
February 9, 2017

ISLAMABAD: The visiting Chief of Air Staff, Senegalese Air Force, Brigadier Gen Birame DIOP on Thursday lauded the professionalism of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and expressed his desire to enhance mutual cooperation between the two air forces.

According to a PAF spokesperson, the visiting dignitary expressed these views during his meeting with Chief of the Air Staff Sohail Aman here at the PAF headquarters. Both the dignitaries discussed matters of professional and mutual interest. Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman offered all out support to the Senegalese Air Force in the field of aviation training.

In a related development, the visiting Chief of Senegalese Air Force along with his delegation also called on Federal Minister for Defense Production, Rana Tanveer Hussain at Ministry of Defence Production, Rawalpindi and discussed matters mutual interest. The minister expressed Pakistan’s wholehearted support for Senegal’s plan of modernising its armed forces.

He assured that the government of Pakistan was ready to support Senegal in every field especially defence technology, training, capacity building and to strengthen Senegal’s defence Industry. He assured that Pakistan will assist and facilitate Senegal at every step. He said that Pakistan welcomes Senegal’s interest in Pakistan’s defence market and added that more frequent interaction between Pakistan and Senegal may pave way for meaningful contracts beneficial for both the countries.

Brigadier General Birame DIOP thanked the minister for the hospitality extended to them during their stay in Pakistan. He said that Senegal attaches great importance to its relations with Pakistan. He also stressed the need to identify the areas of cooperation to further strengthen the existing relationship.

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JF17 Thunder updates

2017 is expected to be a big year for programme

JF17 Block II order of 50 to be completed
Signing of 50 x JF17 III expected
First flight of JF17B expected in 2nd quarter of this year
First export orders to be delivered
Production between Block II and III not expected to be halted
JF17B Foreign customers will experience the fighter rather than simulator and speed of integration of weapons

The Thunder is maturing into a formidable programme

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Deino

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JF-17B Model at display on IDEX 2017 has a swept tail. Hint for a redesign or an inaccurate model (similar to the FC-31V1) ?

JF-17B IDEX 2017 + revised tail - 1 full.jpg JF-17B IDEX 2017 + revised tail - 1.jpg JF-17B IDEX 2017 + revised tail - 2 part.jpg
 

asif iqbal

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Interesting

Ok so it's a model but where is this model at IDEX 2017

So by that nature a good indication at CATIC stall

Could be just showing a export variet for show purpose

However does it make current sense ? Yes because i say all along even PAC has surprised itself with JF17 development and success

Now they are regretting not designing a medium level fighter and going for this "cheap light weight" fighter

This terminology of "cheap light weight" is only used by Pakistan poor sales men who have no idea how to sell weapons

So overall I wouldn't be at all surprised if Pakistan isn't trying to now develop this fighter further and build on the platform

This is how JF17 has turned out

Someone wanted to build a small house on small land to get a good view, after buying the land and building the house the view is so spectacular and location is so nice that they are now doing extensions to the house so many extensions sometimes it might be easier just scrapping the current house and building a huge new one (no a option)

PAC built a light fighter turned out they are so pleased they are wishing they can expand further
 

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Seems indeed as if already at Zhuhai the B had this revised tail !

JF-17B - Zhuhai - 1.jpg
 
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