JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

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    A short explanation ??? PLAESE !
     
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    CJCSC(Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee) visited PAC Kamra today. Briefed about ongoing projects. Lauded PAC's attained self reliance & international standards in all its projects
     
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    Loving it !!! Brilliant

    The last few weeks have been great in the JF17 programme!!
     
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    2015 was a massive year for JF17 with a large production run

    2016 was even bigger a large production run with exports secured

    2017 will be a even bigger year with Block II deliverys to the airforce, export deliverys and PAF taking deliverys of the twin seater JF17B

    PAF could get its first twin seater while simultaneously handing over Block II units

    JF17B could be used for recon or EW varient to replace Mirage in PAF

    Already PLAN is testing EW J15D and PLAAF J16D they could provide their experience on JF17B EW pods etc

    Coordinated with dedicated strike they would serve a serious blow in a war

    I really hope JF17A and JF17B expand envelope of operation to cover full spectrum of warfare
     
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    JF17B twin seater

    A good addition to the PAF for OCU
    Lead in fighter trainer which will certainly benefit PAF
    Add 4 units to each JF17 squadron
    So easily we can be looking at 12-24 x JF17B for PAF
    Will secure more exports since a trainer version is available
    Also provides a slightly larger platform than the single seat opening up the operations capability and scope of missions
    Therefore can be used as EW or recon unit
    JF17 is a Light weight fighter making a dual seater won't turn it into a medium weight fighter but will certainly add to the profile

    I bet PAF is kicking itself and wish it had designed the Thunder to be a medium weight fighter rather than light weight because as time has gone on the Thunder is showing its scope well beyond what was envisaged Originally

    It's turning out to be a fighter that will cover length and breath of the country In all mission profiles

    Let's hope for another progressive year in the programme
     
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    It would have been more expensive and maybe wouldn't have left enough money for the improvements you admire.
     
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    Would never have bought those new F16 C/D !
     
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    @asif iqbal

    Thank you for your post----. I have written about it many a years ago on PDF---and here as well awhile ago.

    JF17 is two sizes too small. They had an excellent example of of Japan's F2 in front of them---and as @war&peace on PDF mentioned that the original design was larger---but later cut back.

    @delft---I am literally shocked when people talk abut the increased cost---. I mean to say---these are tier 1 weapons of death and destruction---to protect and project the national interest---why would a miniscule amount of cost increase effect the program.

    The increased cost would have been equal to or less than the price of one new F16.

    What is the difference in the cost of a size 36 pants to a size 42 pants---minimal.

    Now what is the difference if you want to make an existing size 36 into a size 42---a lot more than envisaged.

    The difference in cost would have been nothing---hardly noticeable---when first designed---maybe 20-25 million more---at the time of inception.

    But the multiplier effect of force projection would have been a lot more.
     
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    Increasing the use of composites and adding a more powerful engine would go a long way

    And knowing that the production most likely will not stop at Block III this is certainly a possible modification for consequence blocks

    Carrying 3 x C802? Possible since it's got mid air refuelling to extend range
     
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