JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

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crazyinsane105

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Re: Test Flaws Postpone JF-17

adeptitus said:
My $0.02

Q. Why did China agree to the FC-1/JF-17 development?

A. Because someone else (Pakistan) agreed to pay 1/2 the R&D costs.

Someone pays 1/2 the bills and you get the reap the benefits. What a great deal.

Plus you get to develop another fighter jet. :cool:
 

skyhawk2005

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Re: Test Flaws Postpone JF-17

adeptitus said:
My $0.02

Q. Why did China agree to the FC-1/JF-17 development?

A. Because someone else (Pakistan) agreed to pay 1/2 the R&D costs.

Someone pays 1/2 the bills and you get the reap the benefits. What a great deal.


Not really. There is nothing that the FC1 provides for China in terms of R&D. Actually, many of the R&D fruits of the J10 is flowing into the FC1/JF17 in terms of radar, SD 10 missile, composites, and this benefits only Pakistan. There is nothing the FC1 project offers technologically wise to China.

The only reason China is doing this is strategic reasons. They want to keep Pakistan a close ally. From a monetary and resource point of view, the FC1 is a loser for China. Pakistan paid about 150million, a paltry sum for development of a 3rd generation fighter. Granted, Chengdu needs external funds to operate, but given China's military budget, they do not really need Pakistan funds.
 

MIGleader

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an fc-1 still has potential, being such a new plane. its also cheap. see, the fc-1 has similar 2a performance as a f-16, but is 10-15 mil cheaper. and if the pakistanis can upgrade it with some american equipment, then they dont f-16s anymore.
 

crazyinsane105

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Here is a website just for the JF-17. It was made by a PDF member.

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I really like it because it is a pretty good informative site.
 

Vlad Plasmius

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Russia has blocked the sale of Chinese fighter planes with Russian engines to Pakistan.

"We've denied China the right to supply its JF-17 fighter aircraft powered by Russian RD-93 engines to third countries, asking it to sign an end-user certificate for the engines," said Colonel-General Anatoly Mazurkevich, head of the Defence Ministry's International Cooperation Department.

President Pervez Musharraf said last year that the JF-17s would be flying in Pakistani skies by March 2007. Islamabad plans to acquire 150 JF-17s, known in China as FC-1. China has bought 100 Klimov RD-93 engines from Russia for installing on JF-17s, with an option to contract another 400 engines.

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This has been suspected for a while, but I think this is the first time there's been an announcement.
 

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This has been suspected for a while, but I think this is the first time there's been an announcement.
was it so hard to just put that article on this thread? What I've wanted to say about this situation can be found earlier in this thread. Don't need to repeat again.
 

tphuang

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this is from Huitong regarding JF-17.
快讯:第一批两架废材将于3月10日交付小巴空军!

将参加3月23日巴基斯坦国庆节阅兵式。。。
着灰色涂装,取消鸡头空速管。。。
basically saying that the first 2 JF-17s will be handed over to PAF on March 10th and will particpate in Pakistan's national day celebration.
it will be in gray painting
 

tphuang

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Re: Russia Blocks FC-1 Sales

Just posting some of the pictures of a JF-17 that is about to be delivered to Pakistan
jf17feb4qe6.jpg

jf17feb42vz9.jpg
 

Gollevainen

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Re: New JF-17/FC-1 thread

As the previous jf-17 thread should have been closed, but still however people managed to post there, I decided to remove that thread completely and splitting those post made post-closing to new thread.
 

optionsss

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interesting, I wonder what engine would they use, I also heard there were 10 prototypes delivered to PAF for training and evaluations, so does any body know what happened to the engine, are they gonna use a russian one or a new chinese version.:confused: :china:
 
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