JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

[Chaminuka]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

But they returned the pitot tube?

I don't think we know when this was. We generally don't have time stamps on these photos. I believe #06 photos have been around for nearly two years... ...???

 

[Totoro]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

06 is a testing bird, it is bound to have some differences than serial birds. Nose mounted pitot tubes being one of them, as that is the best spot to place one for testing purposes.

 

[Zahid]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

The production of JF17 / FC-1 starts in Pakistan. I am surprised that this has not been reported here by the more active posters.

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GEO Pakistan
PAF starts JF-17 Thunder production
Updated at: 1128 PST, Tuesday, June 30, 2009
KAMRA: Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has started assembling of the first Pakistani-built JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft.

Chief of the air staff, Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman inaugurated the construction in a ceremony at Kamra. Top military and civilian officials of Pakistan and China attended the ceremony.

This success will enhance Pakistan’s air power in the region and at international scale, Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman said. He praised the Chinese cooperation and said that the joint Sino-Pak project is a living example of the cooperation between the two countries.

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[mean_bird]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

Some pictures

 

[mean_bird]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

 

[Munir]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

Deino:

That VHF/UHF com antenna is now standard for more PAF planes. It is also gradually being used on F7P and PG... It is imported from a western firm.

 

[Deino]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

Thanks for that info !

Deino

 

[challenge]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

Deino:

That VHF/UHF com antenna is now standard for more PAF planes. It is also gradually being used on F7P and PG... It is imported from a western firm.

a chinese aero magazine reported that the UHF radio can be double as data link.

 

[adeptitus]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

The J-10 is a relatively high performance fighter, has a different flight envelope than JF-17 and much larger payload. If the JF-17 costs $15-20m, then I would expect the J-10 to be over $30m. Even with upgrades and modifications, the JF-17 is in a different class from J-10. Its like saying F-16E version has performance similar to F-15. That's not true. Even F-15A still flies higher, faster, and carries more bombs than F-16E. Does that mean F-16E is not worth developing? No.

I think the F-16 E/F question is still pending. UAE paid $3 billion for the co-development R&D expense, and is supposed to receive royalty from any units sold to 3rd party. But Western countries are likely to go directly to F-35, and used F-16's sold to poor-er countries on a budget can select competitively priced upgrades from Israel. UAE doesn't really have much of a domestic aviation industry, and I don't think they got to assemble the F-16's either. The aircraft does serve their defensive needs.

The JF-17 is less capable than the J-10 or F-16 E/F. But it provided a big boost to Pakistan's military aviation industry. Tech transfer, funding, skilled labor, years of manufacturing/assembly to fulfill the order, and even more years in the future to provide service, overhaul, and possibly exports. It's a good investment in developing and maintaining local skilled labor. Plus, no need to worry about international sanctions -- you make the parts yourself.

 

[Munir]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

Thanks for that info !

Deino

Anytime.

If you check out the upgraded Turkish F5 you will see almost the same antenna... The pics are personal made and several years old... And since we know Pakistan and Turkey have some brotherly links they share some...