Japanese Defence Minister: Helicopter & DDG "locked on" by Chinese Frigates' Radar

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    Re: Japanese Defence Minister: Helicopter & DDG "locked on" by Chinese Frigates' Ra

    Why would that be?

    edit: I was asking about the reasoning for the first sentence, to be specific: if Japan did identify the Chinese frigate by name or number, "that would mean Japanese ships were guilty of intruding into Chinese territory". how is that?
     
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    Because the current Abe administration needed something to put on a show to let the public see how tough they are against China to appease their hawkish supporters.

    " if Japan did identify the Chinese frigate by name or number, "that would mean Japanese ships were guilty of intruding into Chinese territory". how is that?"

    If you see someone else was there already, that means you don't belong there.
     
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    well, this post give me the impression that the incident happened nowhere near the disputed island.


     
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    Re: Japanese Defence Minister: Helicopter & DDG "locked on" by Chinese Frigates' Ra

    Sadly, many Americans, though they do not agree with it, are not willing to risk being called "racist," or, "hateful," (when it really has nothing to do with that because folks like us welcome wholeheartidly legal immigrants), and so do not view it as the same as an armed, belligerent, war time invasion...which I believe it what is being alluded to.

    But, this is drifting far too far towards political issues so I will just leave it at that.

    Apparently, we have heard no more of these incidents between China and Japan, though I suppose we shall see if Japan goes so far as to release its electronics data...I would guess not because a lot can be gleaned from that, and would even be a reason to briefly turn the FCS on in the hopes that actual data would be released. All part of the great game and let's hope it stays that way and does not turn hot, and to shooting.
     
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    Re: Japanese Defence Minister: Helicopter & DDG "locked on" by Chinese Frigates' Ra

    China Has To Face This Kind Cold War Mentality For Many Year To Come

    [video]http://news.yahoo.com/video/online-cold-war-china-195451221.html[/video]
     
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    Back to topic people, or the fat pilot will come strafing us...

    The past few days we see the Chinese government plays it too passively, with the Japanese taken all the initiatives. In short, things are going badly for the Chinese, and it'll inevitably made some of the Chinese restless. As much as the CMC can keep the military on a short leash, they'll be under increasing pressure to stop the losing streak.

    The new leadership of Xi Jinping is facing its first test, and the result so far is disappointing.
     
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    转解放军报:2月10日东海舰队两架战机紧急升空监视外国飞机

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    本报特约记者 王朝武 通讯员 赵海涛


      2013年02月10日,东南沿海某机场寒气袭人,能见度不足3公里。

      上午11时05分,“丁零零……”东海舰队航空兵某飞行团值班室电话骤然响起:某海域出现空情,上级命令该团飞机紧急起飞前往监视。

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      “注意飞行姿态,即将入云。”指挥员及时提醒,话音刚落战鹰便钻进了一片密云之中。肖建全和王新颖控制好编队间隔,密切协同,一直爬升到6000米时才完全出云。

      “目标空域,××度,××公里,做好跟踪、监视!”这时,耳机里传来指挥员口令。“明白!”肖建全和王新颖调整飞行姿态向目标飞去。

      肖建全瞪大眼睛,在机载雷达上仔细搜索目标,终于发现一个时隐时现的小亮点。他屏住呼吸,迅速向目标靠拢。长空中,双方斗智斗勇。12时40分,对方见无机可乘,在我战机严密监视下,调转机头飞离而去。

      返航途中,能见度越来越差,接近该型战机最低起降气象条件。由于前期计划周详、准备充分,13时27分战机安全着陆。

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    Liberation Army Daily: East China Sea Fleet, the two fighters scrambled to monitor foreign aircraft February 10

    East China Sea Fleet, the two fighters yesterday scrambled to monitor a flight of foreign aircraft in the East China Sea Fleet Air Force group - their fighters in the Youth Pre-employment Training nursing the Haitian newspaper correspondent Wang Zhaowu correspondent Zhao Haitao

    2013 02 10, the southeast coast of an airport chill went visibility is less than 3 km.   "East China Sea Fleet Air Force Flying Corps duty room phone suddenly rang: a certain area of the air situation, superiors command the regiment the aircraft emergency took off for monitoring.   With a shrill alarm sound, air-launched officer responsible for duty tasks Recycled full pilot Wang Yan and vice captain Xin-Ying Wang, Tang Feilong, from the duty room quickly jumped up, carrying helmets rushed fighters, car, taxiing, afterburner takeoff ...... I saw the two-plane formation of a new type of fighter scrambled from dragging the blue exhaust plume, directly toward a goal waters.   "Note that the flight attitude, about to enter the cloud the commander timely reminder, voice faded their fighters got into a Miyun being. Recycled full and Xin-Ying Wang control the formation interval, in close coordination with, and has climbed to 6000 meters when fully Izumo.   Target airspace × ×, × × km, do a good job tracking, monitoring! "At this time the headphones came commanders password. "Understand!" Recycled full and Xin-Ying Wang adjust flight attitude and flew to the target.   The Recycled full eyes wide open, a thorough search on the airborne radar target, and finally found a hidden when a small bright spot. He held his breath, and quickly move closer to the goal. Long the air, the two sides battle of wits. 12:40, the other side see life as, under the close surveillance of our fighters, turned the head fly away.   The return voyage, the visibility is getting worse, close to the lowest this type of aircraft taking off and landing weather conditions. Pre-planned, prepared, 13:27 fighter safe landing.   (Newspaper Ningbo, February 10)
     
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    Get back to topic now!
     
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    Re: Japanese Defence Minister: Helicopter & DDG "locked on" by Chinese Frigates' Ra

    US believes Japan's account of China's radar-locking in East China Sea

    It now occurs to me that this outcry about Chinese ships "radar painting" Japanese vessels is preparatory work for the justification of a Japanese first-strike. Once the Western media gets the public used to the idea that Chinese warships "radar lock" Japanese ships, they will be much more willing to accept a first-strike scenario from the Japanese.

    Can some experienced forumites provide information on the reliability of any proof the Japanese can provide? It's my understanding that data is data. It can easily be falsified if enough work is spent on making it look real.
     
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    Re: Japanese Defence Minister: Helicopter & DDG "locked on" by Chinese Frigates' Ra

    Well, the Japanese have yet to present any proof at all. What happened with their evidence they wanted to present to the UN?

    In dubio pro reo should be the order of the day when confronted with any unsubstantiated allegations in a system suppossed to be ruled by law. But this doesnt seem to apply to "enemies of freedom", apparently...
     
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