Japanese Defence Minister: Helicopter & DDG "locked on" by Chinese Frigates' Radar

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    Japan's other island dispute heats up too.

    Japan scrambles fighters after Russian jets approach island - CNN.com
     
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    Funny how whenever an island dispute flares up between China and one of it's neighbours, the western media absolutely have to mention all of China's other territorial disputes, but when Japan has a dispute, they never think to mention that Japan has territorial disputes with every one of it's immediate neighbours.
     
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    Well, that's the same down in the SCS area as well, hardly any mention of any other disputes amongst the other claimants or their respective aggressive actions that are destabilizing. As for the US govt, I find them disingenuous when advising China that they need to ratchet down their posturing for they say very little to their allies on toning down their respective postures. If the US govt can only say this to their allies behind closed doors, then it's not very neutral one bit because the US govt isn't certainly advising China behind closed doors and adding to the media circus.
     
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    Russia doing something similar of their own? Is it another regular incident, or done so to provoke the Japanese sentiments to flare upwards(which will naturally burn towards China first)
     
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    It rather reinforce the view (to which I subscribe) that there is a high degree of harmonisation on multiple fronts with regards o the Sino-Russian Foreign Policy.

    A gentle reminder perhaps to Tokyo as to who it is exactly that is isolated in the immediate neighbourhood.
     
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    Agreed, I think people underestimate the degree of China-Russia cooperation.
     
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    Found this piece in the Asahi Shinbun with a nice graphic.

    Japan: Hotline needed after Chinese warship 'threatened force'

    It appears the incident took place 180 km north of Diaoyutai, closer to the Chunxiao gas fields but west of them. And considering the distance separation between ships is 3 km, this would seem to indicate the Japanese ships were within the Chinese EEZ side or pretty darn close to it and overall, being closer to China.

    Also...

     
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    I keep wondering, isn't 3km too short for missile? The ship's main or even the CIWS should be in used for such a distance!

    It's time to hear some voice from the China side:

    China foreign ministry's spokeswoman denies Chinese vessel to aim fire control radar at Japanese vessel and helicopter

    It generally said that the Chinese vessel didn't aim its radar at Japanese ship, instead, the dangerous moves were Japanese vessel and aircraft that follow Chinese vessel at a very closed distance.
     
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    The only reason China turned down UN resolution on Syria is to support Russia, possibly looking for Russia doing the same thing if anything happen in North Korea.

    The real achievement for the 4 , 5 years is that China really starts to strengthening it's national interests and part friends, enemies, and frienimies. (I think it has a lot to do with Taiwan no-longer being the center piece of strategic planning) No more everyone is a strategic partner and "you hurt our feelings" rabbit diplomacy. Western media calls it mistake that wastes previous, but I think it's a step in the right direction. People will be nice to you when you cut and offering them your own flesh, and they will also happily watch you die from your own wounds.
     
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    Honestly?I agree, and what you say works both ways. How many here (without informed knowledge) saw the article and immediately dismissed it as groundless? The least biased course of action is to not judge either side until more information on the incident makes itself available.

    It's very hard to do this because the thread topic and its implications is so close to many people's hearts, and dredges up the specters of nationalism. Its why these threads are so ripe for closing. Its already present, If I chose to contest certain unsupported and smearing statements other posters have said, I'm sure the thread would be closed shortly.



    As of now what we have is a basic 'he said, she said' situation. Japan says it happened, China says it didn't.

    First priority is to make sure whatever happened doesn't blow things out of control (which others have pointed to as being very unlikely at this point after the event).

    As for Russia's own overflight, I think it was just a coincidence. It's not like Russia would go to war with Japan over the the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands (unless someone thinks it would?), and it already has the Kuril islands. Why would it bring the spotlight on the issue at this time when Japan is so conveniently distracted by China? For unstated solidarity? What concessions?
     
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