Japan Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

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  1. asif iqbal
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    JMSDF operates only top tier equipment

    RAN should have gone down under with these SSK over the French
     
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    French proposal is/was actually far more ambitious.
    I am very sceptical if it isn't overly ambitious, but they were the first to propose the exact thing Aussies dreamed about for many decades.
    Japan didn't.
     
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    I personally think the Japanese offer was better

    politics always plays a role especially with French
     
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    It was completely vaporware so they could propose whatever they wanted. It doesn't mean it will meet expectations, schedule or budget which is failing two out of three(Schedule & Budget).
     
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    Barracudas are vaporware? No, they're inherently far more capable than any Japanese sub in existence. Not because they are Japanese, but because they are conventional. Attack class submarine is mostly the same package as the french one, but with batteries and diesel instead of a reactor.
    This simple fact essentially got them the order.
    How much of this capability shortfins will be able to retain? This is yet to be seen: most nukes' advantages come from a very simple fact that it isn't constrained by energy supply, at all. Not just in service, but from the very first sketches of every single piece of sub-specific equipment onwards.

    TBH I'm very pessimistic as well, but maybe Li-ions will make this "temporary" nuclear sub viable enough.
    Soryu, on the other hand, is the evolutionary development of traditional large SSKs. It's logical and almost certainly it'll work, but the ”Cool" factor just wasn't there. Price, however, was.

    In the end, you may damn politics and politicians, but the french proposal was better customized for a customer known to operate as far as Vladivostok.
     
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    That is vaporware since the original Barracuda was designed with a nuclear reactor in mind to power the sub. With a different power supply it is not going to meet any of the requirements that a nuclear reactor provides so they had to redesign it from the bottom up which they actually did.
    The only thing the two shares is the name and are complete different subs.
     
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    here's
    Australian Military News, Reports, Data, etc. Aug 17, 2016
    I've checked the link #4 still works

    plus my own favorite hahaha Jun 25, 2018
     
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    ... now (https://twitter.com/CavasShips/status/1194128580118228998)
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    KONGSBERG awarded follow-on JSM contract with Japan
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    https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/11/kongsberg-awarded-follow-on-jsm-contract-with-japan/
     
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    Well kids little bit of a follow up. Mitsubishi HI has it seems shown there new 8x8.
    0A161DB1-F3E1-4503-85AD-A16FB8BB545F.jpeg C303FE08-E8EF-4958-8697-68296B252346.jpeg 9A5C9789-92CE-4F1B-98C1-D0C03F2F2649.jpeg
    Pretty clearly based on the Type 16 MCV chassis but reconfigured with a armored crew bay. 89C30475-B554-4EB3-83D5-D284A9A369AF.jpeg specs sheet.
    and suspension system. 9BCB3020-DF8F-42F1-88D1-ED90A43F7080.jpeg
     
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