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"The Navy's "Operational" F-35C Is Fully Mission Capable Less Than Five Percent Of The Time: A stunning deficiency in readiness rates for Navy and Marine F-35s calls into question whether the stealth jets can fight a prolonged conflict."
BY JOSEPH TREVITHICK MARCH 20, 2019
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p.s. I'm happy to wait for the 2020 report, because I'm fairly certain that one isn't going to be much better, given the historical trend.
That rate was spread over 2 years in two services one not having IOC until halfway through the report the other having just declared IOC and having a grounding.
As such its subjective.
It’s like trying to assess the ability of a School to pass the SATs by giving it to every student and teacher from Preschool to elementary to middle to high then arguing they failed.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Looking at the other side of the fence, you gotta admit that people are also quick to imply somehow it's related to Japanese assembly, talk about "defection" just because it's an Asian pilot, and that China/Russia will somehow gain from this even though the crash is well in Japan/US controlled waters. Calling it a lemon is not even that bad of an insinuation.
I point to it’s Japanese assembly because that is a factor that farther isolates this as unique. The Japanese decided to stop assembly in Japan at the end of last year. Also because some one said something about “Toyota Fixing it.”
Defection seems doubtful at best. We know the long animosity between China and Japan and it’s questionable that the F35 would have had the range. The Pilot is reported to have been on RTB.
A lemon somehow insinuates that this was the fault of the aircraft. As yet we have no idea what happened and as yet jumping to lemon is premature.
 
first I'll say something: I've been skeptical about the F-35, and I've posted several hundred critical remarks about it, and I have also posted one thousand (?) news about it, but I would NOT exploit any tragedy;
now why I originally came to this thread:
U.S. Destroyer, P-8 Poseidons Join Search for Missing Japanese F-35A Pilot; Officials Say Fighter Crashed
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A U.S. guided-missile destroyer and P-8A Poseidons maritime surveillance aircraft have joined in the search for a Japanese Air Self Defense Force F-35A Lighting II Joint Strike Fighter pilot who went missing on Tuesday.

The P-8As, assigned Patrol Squadron (VP) 8 and Patrol Squadron (VP) 5, joined the search Monday night and destroyer USS Stethem (DDG-63) is underway to the search areas, U.S. 7th Fleet announced.

Japanese officials told reporters that searchers had discovered parts from the missing fighter.

“We have collected parts from the jet fighter’s tail fin so we [believe] it crashed,” Defence Minister Takeshi Iwaya told reporters, according to the
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The fighter, assigned to the JASDF 302nd Tactical Fighter Squadron, went missing about 84 miles off the coast of Misawa, Japan about 7:30 p.m. local time. Press reports say the unidentified pilot was an experienced aviator with over 3,000 hours of flight time.

Japan’s remaining 12 operational F-35As have been grounded pending an investigation into the apparent crash.
 
here's what I've now read (says Updated 5 hours ago):
Daunting salvage task awaits Japanese F-35 investigators baffled by crash
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Two days after one of Japan’s F-35 stealth fighters plunged into the Pacific and no closer to finding out why it happened, investigators face a daunting task to recover what remains of the highly classified jet from the ocean depths.

Air Self Defense Force (ASDF) investigators have found small sections of the F-35’s wing floating in the sea which suggests the advanced aircraft hit the water, but not why it disappeared from radar screens without warning.

“We have not recovered anything that would point to a cause,” an air force official told Reuters as the search continues for the missing pilot.

The remaining wreckage of the $126 million fighter lies at a depth of around 1,500 meters (4922 ft), including the flight data recorder which would shed light on what happened off the coast of northern Japan on Wednesday evening.

Twenty-eight minutes after taking off with three other F-35s from Misawa air base in Aomori prefecture on a night training flight, the jet vanished from military radar at about 7:27 p.m. (1027 GMT), the ASDF said.

The normally stealthy Lockheed Martin jet is fitted with a transponder that pings its position and can be configured to light up on radar scopes during training flights, the air force official said.

Radar operators tracking the jet received a training abort message from the lost aircraft before it disappeared about 135 km (84 miles) east of the base. There was no communication from the pilot indicating a problem with the aircraft.

The plane was not on a low-level practice run, suggesting the veteran pilot with 3,200 hours of flying time but only 60 hours in the F-35, should have had time to react to an emergency, the air force official said.

DEEP WATER
The military may have to hire marine salvage firms with submersible craft able to recover wreckage from deep water. The candidates include Japan’s two biggest marine salvage firms.

Fukuda Salvage and Marine Works got its start a century ago recovering damaged warships during the Russo-Japanese war, while Nippon Salvage shares its corporate roots with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, the company that assembled the lost F-35.

“The time needed to complete salvage operations depends on a lot of factors and ... it’s impossible to say how long it would take to recover the F-35,” a Fukuda Salvage official said, adding it would take more than a few days.

The condition of the single-engine fighter, part of a 12 plane squadron that just became operational, will probably be the biggest factor in planning a salvage operation, an engineer at Nippon Salvage told Reuters.

“Intact it could be pulled up by a crane, but if it’s broken up then submersibles would have to collect the fragments,” he said. “The question is whether you want to collect all the pieces.”

Before that can start, however, Japan’s defense force has to find the wreckage of the highly-classified piece of U.S. military equipment.
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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it weird that he was leading 3? other f35s and they end up losing track of the plane and him after aborting mid-practice? What would be standard procedure in these cases for the accompanying pilots?
Not weird at all, the standard formation for 4 F-35s contains quite a bit of separation in order to "triangulate" targets.
 
here's the DefenseNews story of
F-35A crash: Japan’s defense minister addresses security concerns, procurement plans
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Japan has started combing the seafloor of the Pacific Ocean for the wreckage of its F-35A Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter, two days after the
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into waters off northern Japan.

Defense Minister Takeshi Iwaya, addressing the media on Friday morning Tokyo time, said the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force has deployed a submarine rescue vessel to search the depths in the area where the F-35A crashed. The area is estimated to be about 5,000 feet (1,500 meters) deep.

The pilot of the crashed F-35, who the Japan Air Self-Defense Force identified as 41-year-old Maj. Akinori Hosomi, is still missing. He was taking part in an air combat training mission with three other F-35s on Tuesday evening when the pilot and aircraft lost contact with other members of the flight and disappeared from radar approximately 85 miles (135 kilometers) east of Misawa Air Base in the northern part of Japan’s main island of Honshu.

The Misawa-based aircraft disappeared soon after Hosomi — who had 3,200 flight hours under his belt that included 60 on the F-35A — told the other pilots taking part to end the training portion of the flight. No other communication was subsequently heard from him, and none of the other pilots saw the aircraft crash.

The disappearance of the aircraft triggered a large search operation by ships and aircraft belonging to the Japanese self-defense forces. According to the U.S. Navy’s Japan-based 7th Fleet, the destroyer Stethem and several P-8A Poseidon multimission aircraft also took part in the search. Some wreckage from the F-35 was subsequently sighted in the water, which confirmed the fate of the missing jet.

Iwaya also confirmed that there is no intention to revise Japan’s procurement of more F-35s pending the results of an investigation into the crash, which is the second-ever involving an F-35. An F-35B belonging to the U.S. Marine Corps had
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in September 2018, the cause of which is still under investigation.

Japan plans to acquire a total of 147 F-35s, split into 105 F-35A conventional-takeoff-and-landing variants and 42 F-35Bs, which are conducting short-takeoff-and-vertical-landing operations.

The minister was asked about the possibility of China or Russia attempting to salvage the crashed F-35 from the seafloor given the highly classified nature of the technology onboard the stealth jet. He said no unusual activity had been observed at the crash site, although Japanese forces are continuing to monitor the situation.
 
pricing inside
US clears Japan for $1.2B missile package to defend against ballistic threats
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The U.S. State Department has cleared a further sale of missiles used for
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to Japan, marking the third and largest batch of such missiles to the U.S. ally.

The approval for the potential sale in response to a request by
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, announced by the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, includes a package of 56 SM-3 Block IB missiles for an estimated cost of $1.15 billion.

The request will now move to Congress, where members of the Senate have 30 days to raise concerns about the potential sale, although it is unlikely to meet any objections. Total quantities and dollar totals can change during the congressional approval process.

Japan’s request also includes the sale of missile canisters, U.S. government and contractor representatives’ technical assistance, engineering and logistical support services, and other related elements of logistics and program support. The prime contractor for the missiles and canisters will be Raytheon and BAE Systems respectively.

The SM-3 is a ship-based missile system used to intercept short- and intermediate-range ballistic missiles as a part of the Aegis ballistic missile defense system. The SM-3 Block IB features a two-color infrared seeker, and a 10-thruster solid throttling divert and attitude control system on the kill vehicle to give it improved capability against maneuvering ballistic missiles or warheads compared to earlier versions of the missile.

Japan has six Aegis destroyers in service capable of defending against ballistic missiles, and the country is building two more. In September 2018, one of these ships, the JS Atago, successfully shot down a ballistic missile target with an SM-3 Block IB during a test off Hawaii.

Japan is also acquiring the land-based Aegis Ashore system to improve the country’s ability to defend against ballistic missiles.

Raytheon is also developing the improved SM-3 Block IIA with Japan’s Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. The Block IIA will add a larger diameter kill vehicle that is more maneuverable, and it will come with another sensor/discrimination upgrade, which will enable it to better defend against intermediate-range ballistic missiles.
 

Jeff Head

General
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It's to early to claim a cause. And rather Disgusting to jump out a claim of "Lemon" by critics.
To date this is only the second F35 crash ever. The safety record on this bird has been pretty good.
Aen Terran.

The F-35 is a very sophisticated nd capable aircraft. There are always issues with new technologies, and any new aircraft introfuced to a new air group is going to be most critical and most prone to issue when that group is first learning to use it.

The crtics of the F-35 have been losing a lot of ground the last few years and they are left having to do things like this...jumping at any issue whatsoever an damn anyone who stands against their general over-reactions and against the disrespect for the dead pilot and his family and fellow countrymen.

I have tlaked to many US Air Force, US Navy, and US MArine pilots who are flying these aircraft. They all love it, even the BRavo which is harder to master...but still much easier than the Harrier was to fly and get a handle on.

As I have said many times, this aircraft will be the most produced and the most used and most capable 5th generation strike aircraft that will ever be produced. Thye like her manuverability. They love her sensor fusion. The like the ability to control UAVs that are prgrammed into her comms. It's sad Obama halted the X-47B UCLASS because each "Charlie" was going to be able to control up to three of those aircraft which could fly in at mast level and do the SEAD mission if they chose, while the Charlies came along behind them with the heavy ordinance. Here's hoping Trump gets a second term and can ten use the surging economy he has gotten going to undo all tat Obama stood down.

Th cost has come down just as Lockheed promised it would so you can now buy an F-35A, with the engine, for less than the modernized and upgraded F-16s that are still being sold. That's a significant achievement.

The detractors seem to think that all of the defense departments around the world are corrupt and somehow falling for a lark with the F-35.

well they are not all corrupt and the vast majority of them are doing what they believe is the very best thing for the interest of the defene of their nations...and the vast majority are buying the F-35 in its various forms, particularly the Alpha and Bravo versions.

And they are going to be glad they have them...they know the score...they know the full capabilities and have compared them aginst all the other offerings out there and they are choosing th F-35s.

Long after I am dead and gone there will be several thousand of these aircraft protecting the US and most of her allies for the next 30-40 years, until the 6th gen aircraft bgin coming out in number.

@Air Force Brat @bd popeye @SamuraiBlue @duncanidaho
 
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