Japan Earthquake

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Red___Sword

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All sorts of experts trying to teach the masses on paper, TV and radio of the GLOBAL effect on one nuclear plant's (which located at rural inland) leak at 1986, and warns the world the sin of an irresponsible state.

Today, who cares the so called "effects", as long as we HAVE FAITH ON YOU?
 

Schumacher

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2 hotspots found far away from Fukushima in one day.

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TOKYO -- Japanese officials have found a small area in Tokyo with higher levels of radiation than evacuation zones around the Fukushima nuclear plant.

Tokyo's Setagaya city's mayor says concerned parents monitoring for radiation asked them to conduct further tests on a roadside spot near a kindergarten. Its radioactivity slightly exceeded that of an area about 25 miles (40 kilometers) from the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant.............................

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STRONTIUM 90, a highly dangerous radioactive isotope, has reportedly been found atop an apartment building in Yokohama, fuelling fears that fallout from the Fukushima disaster has affected the greater Tokyo area.


Yokohama, a city of 3.6 million people, effectively adjoins the Japanese capital, and sits about 250km from the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant.

City officials announced private tests done by an agency hired by a resident had found a concentration of 195 becquerels per kilogram of strontium in sediment on top of the apartment building. Both the Yokohama government and the Japanese government are conducting their own tests to verify the findings................................
 

Schumacher

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But have no fear, you can always count on Japan to face this head on and do whatever it's necessary. First thing to do is to tell everyone everything is fine by offering 1000 free tickets to Japan.

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Seven months after much of its north-east coast was destroyed by a tsunami, Japan is attempting to revive tourism by offering free return flights to 10,000 foreign visitors.

Japan's tourism agency said the programme, which will begin in April, is expected to cost more than 1bn yen (£10m), equivalent to about 10% of its budget request for next year.

Applicants will be asked to outline their travel plans and answer questions about post-disaster tourism in Japan, recently named favourite long-haul country by readers of the Guardian and Observer in the newspapers' annual travel awards. Tokyo won favourite city for the second year in a row.

The successful applicants will receive free return air tickets, but must pay for their accommodation and other expenses.
 

solarz

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But have no fear, you can always count on Japan to face this head on and do whatever it's necessary. First thing to do is to tell everyone everything is fine by offering 1000 free tickets to Japan.

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Seven months after much of its north-east coast was destroyed by a tsunami, Japan is attempting to revive tourism by offering free return flights to 10,000 foreign visitors.

Japan's tourism agency said the programme, which will begin in April, is expected to cost more than 1bn yen (£10m), equivalent to about 10% of its budget request for next year.

Applicants will be asked to outline their travel plans and answer questions about post-disaster tourism in Japan, recently named favourite long-haul country by readers of the Guardian and Observer in the newspapers' annual travel awards. Tokyo won favourite city for the second year in a row.

The successful applicants will receive free return air tickets, but must pay for their accommodation and other expenses.

Hmmm... I wouldn't mind a free flight... to Okinawa, LOL
 

Schumacher

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Hotspots turning up all around Tokyo, some places comparable to Chernobyl.
But a Tokyo official insists everything's fine since “Nobody stands in one spot all day,” and “And nobody eats dirt.”

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October 14, 2011
Citizens’ Testing Finds 20 Hot Spots Around Tokyo

By HIROKO TABUCHI

TOKYO — Takeo Hayashida signed on with a citizens’ group to test for radiation near his son’s baseball field in Tokyo after government officials told him they had no plans to check for fallout from the devastated Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. Like Japan’s central government, local officials said there was nothing to fear in the capital, 160 miles from the disaster zone.

Then came the test result: the level of radioactive cesium in a patch of dirt just yards from where his 11-year-old son, Koshiro, played baseball was equal to those in some contaminated areas around Chernobyl.

The patch of ground was one of more than 20 spots in and around the nation’s capital that the citizens’ group, and the respected nuclear research center they worked with, found were contaminated with potentially harmful levels of radioactive cesium.

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The government’s failure to act quickly, a growing chorus of scientists say, may be exposing many more people than originally believed to potentially harmful radiation. It is also part of a pattern: Japan’s leaders have continually insisted that the fallout from Fukushima will not spread far, or pose a health threat to residents, or contaminate the food chain. And officials have repeatedly been proved wrong by independent experts and citizens’ groups that conduct testing on their own.

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Robert Alvarez, a nuclear expert and a former special assistant to the United States secretary of energy, echoed those calls, saying the citizens’ groups’ measurements “raise major and unprecedented concerns about the aftermath of the Fukushima nuclear disaster.”

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Kaoru Noguchi, head of Tokyo’s health and safety section, however, argues that the testing already done is sufficient. Because Tokyo is so developed, she says, radioactive material was much more likely to have fallen on concrete, then washed away. She also said exposure was likely to be limited.

“Nobody stands in one spot all day,” she said. “And nobody eats dirt.”

Tokyo residents knew soon after the March 11 accident, when a tsunami knocked out the crucial cooling systems at the Fukushima plant, that they were being exposed to radioactive materials. Researchers detected a spike in radiation levels on March 15. Then as rain drizzled down on the evening of March 21, radioactive material again fell on the city.

In the following week, however, radioactivity in the air and water dropped rapidly. Most in the city put aside their jitters, some openly scornful of those — mostly foreigners — who had fled Tokyo in the early days of the disaster.

.......Some of the results were shocking: the sample that Mr. Hayashida collected under shrubs near his neighborhood baseball field in the Edogawa ward measured nearly 138,000 becquerels per square meter of radioactive cesium 137, which can damage cells and lead to an increased risk of cancer.

Of the 132 areas tested, 22 were above 37,000 becquerels per square meter, the level at which zones were considered contaminated at Chernobyl.

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Japan’s relatively tame mainstream media, which is more likely to report on government pronouncements than grass-roots movements, mainly ignored the citizens’ group’s findings.
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Last month, a local government in a Tokyo ward found a pile of composted leaves at a school that measured 849 becquerels per kilogram of cesium 137, over two times Japan’s legally permissible level for compost.

And on Wednesday, civilians who tested the roof of an apartment building in the nearby city of Yokohama — farther from Fukushima than Tokyo — found high quantities of radioactive strontium. (There was also one false alarm this week when sky-high readings were reported in the Setagaya ward in Tokyo; the government later said they were probably caused by bottles of radium, once widely used to make paint.)

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legoboy

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Japan's buildings are built to be earthquake resistant but maybe they should also start working on some Anti-Tsunami measures ? I mean what, like 90% of the damage was due to the Tsunami?, not the earthquake.

Surely they of all people have the technological capacities to do so.
 

richardrli

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Japan's buildings are built to be earthquake resistant but maybe they should also start working on some Anti-Tsunami measures ? I mean what, like 90% of the damage was due to the Tsunami?, not the earthquake.

Surely they of all people have the technological capacities to do so.
No amount of technological marvel is going to truly protect you from the wrath of mother nature.
 

delft

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Japan's buildings are built to be earthquake resistant but maybe they should also start working on some Anti-Tsunami measures ? I mean what, like 90% of the damage was due to the Tsunami?, not the earthquake.

Surely they of all people have the technological capacities to do so.
Tsunami resistant means far enough from the coast, that might be 10 or 20 km, or fitted with a high wall around and with a clear run for the water around the village or town or city. The second means a sharp border around the area within which a place can grow. And that truly huge investment to survive a tsunami that only comes once every so many centuries.

You might decide to improve preparedness by establishing some facilities far from the coast but for most it is better to accept the consequences and rebuild after the tsunami for perhaps several decades.
 

Schumacher

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Greenpeace find radiation in Japanese food in supermarkets.
Notice that Japan set their radiation limit far higher than the 'evil empire' USSR itself after Chernobyl.

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Gaps in Japanese Seafood Contamination Monitoring: Greenpeace

Thursday, October 20, 2011

Tokyo- (PanOrient News) Greenpeace today urged the Japanese government to strengthen its food screening and labeling system, after the environmental organization’s new radiation screening station discovered cesium 134 and 137 in seafood samples from five major supermarket chains around Japan.

Fish and shellfish samples were purchased by Greenpeace between September 4 and October 7 from the Aeon, Ito-Yokado, Uny (Apita), Daiei, and Seiyu supermarket chains in Tokyo, Kanagawa, Chiba, Saitama, Ibaraki, Fukushima, and Miyagi.

All samples were sent to the Food and Ecology Institute of Japan for third party screening using a germanium detector. Greenpeace said. 34 out of the 60 samples tested at the lab exhibited contamination levels of up to 88 becquerel per kg. Following Chernobyl, the Ukrainian limit remains 150 becquerel per kg.

“While the samples are well below the 500 becquerel per kg limit set by the authorities, the contaminated seafood still represents a health risk, especially to pregnant women
and children, and it is being distributed over a wide area,” said Wakao Hanoaka, Greenpeace Japan oceans campaigner. “More concerning, however, is that there is no labeling that notifies consumers if the seafood had been screened, making it impossible for them to make informed decisions.”.............................................
 

delft

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The Washington Post publishes today an article on the Japanese nuclear power industry in the aftermath of the earthquake:
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After earthquake, Japan can’t agree on the future of nuclear power

By Chico Harlan, Thursday, January 26, 3:10 AM

TOKYO — The hulking system that once guided Japan’s pro-nuclear-power stance worked just fine when everybody moved in lock step. But in the wake of a nuclear accident that changed the way this country thinks about energy, the system has proved ill-suited for resolving conflict. Its very size and complexity have become a problem.

Nearly a year after the triple meltdown at the Fukushima Daiichi facility, Japanese decision-makers cannot agree on how to safeguard their reactors against future disasters, or even whether to operate them at all.

Some experts say this indecision reflects the Japanese tendency to search for, and sometimes depend on, consensus — even when none is likely to emerge. The nation’s system for nuclear decision-making requires the agreement of thousands of officials. Most bureaucrats and politicians in Tokyo want Japan to recommit to nuclear power, but they have been thwarted by a powerful minority — reformists and regional governors.

The stalemate comes with heavy consequences, especially as reactors are idled, leading to record financial losses for major power companies and economy-stunting electricity shortages in manufacturing hubs such as Tokyo and Osaka.

Those shortages are likely to mount, as more reactors are shut down for required maintenance. After the shutdown Wednesday of Unit 5 at the Kashiwazaki Kariwa plant in northwestern Japan, the country is now operating just four of its 54 reactors. By the end of April, those last reactors are due to be idled for testing, and Japan, once the world’s third-largest nuclear consumer, could be nuclear-free, if it is unable to win approval from local communities to restart the idled units.

For decades, Japan’s nuclear policies received little public scrutiny and generated little opposition. The country established an elaborate network of hand-holding, with Tokyo passing subsidies to host communities and utility companies forming de facto partnerships with nuclear manufacturing firms such as Toshiba, Hitachi and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries.

Since the March 11 accident, just enough has changed to stall that cooperation. Two-thirds of Japanese oppose atomic power. Politicians in areas that host nuclear plants are rethinking the facilities; they hold veto power over any restart. A few vocal skeptics have emerged in the government, and in the aftermath of the accident, Japan has created at least a dozen commissions and task forces for energy-related issues.

The broad attempt to seek opinion might sound like a welcome change, but according to some panel members, it leaves Japan with a system that impedes reform.

“Oh, there are so many panels,” said Tatsuo Hatta, an economist who sits on three of them. “I’m sorry it’s so complicated.”

A debate over safety

The most immediate question is whether to restart the reactors, which once supplied almost a third of Japan’s power. The debate comes down to how, or whether, the country can guarantee their safety.

As utility company executives lobby for a quick restart, Japan’s nuclear safety agency says “stress tests” — in which computers simulate a reactor’s response to earthquakes and tsunamis — will be enough to assess the risks. Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda said last month that stress tests were a key step in confirming the safety of the power stations.

But some local governors, and some members of key nuclear panels in Tokyo, fear that the government is cutting corners, and they note its traditional coziness with the nuclear industry. They want a revised set of safety standards that will be determined later this summer, after the government finalizes a report about the cause of the Fukushima disaster.

With their reactors largely idled, Japan’s nuclear companies, a collection of regional monopolies, have seen their values drop by as much as 50 percent. Some have been forced to fire up old thermal plants, raising the possibility of higher electricity bills. In addition, those companies have been unable to map out long-term strategies, uncertain whether to count on their nuclear reactors or push for alternatives, such as renewables or liquefied natural gas.

By the end of the summer, a 25-person panel — composed of economists, professors and other outside experts — plans to draft Japan’s new “Basic Energy Plan.” But that plan must then be approved by a divided parliament that has struggled to cooperate on far less controversial issues, such as disaster reconstruction.

Meanwhile, power company employees are racing to reassure Japanese that plants are safe and necessary. In recent weeks, officials from the Kansai Electric Power Co. (Kepco), Japan’s largest nuclear operator, have gone door to door in towns that host its nuclear plants, conducting polls and answering questions.

The Kansai region is Japan’s second-largest industrial area, and in normal times, its most nuclear-reliant. Until last year, a band of 11 nuclear reactors — north of the major cities Osaka and Kyoto — supplied almost 50 percent of the region’s power. Now, only one of those reactors is running.

Obstacles to a restart

In this region, one gets a glimpse of the obstacles Kepco must overcome.

The governor in the prefecture that is home to the company’s reactors says stress tests alone are not enough to prove their safety. The popular anti-nuclear mayor of Osaka, Toru Hashimoto, elected in November, wants to break up Kepco’s regional monopoly; his city is the firm’s largest shareholder, and Hashimoto is trying to rally support from other shareholders to pressure the company out of the nuclear power business.

Anti-nuclear groups in Osaka have gathered tens of thousands of signatures, raising the possibility of a referendum on atomic power. And last week, a nuclear safety agency meeting to discuss a restart at two Kansai reactors — Units 3 and 4 at the Ohi plant — was delayed for more than 31 / 2 hours because of protesters. Once the meeting got underway, the agency approved stress tests, a key step in the government’s authorization to restart the reactors.

Closer to the nuclear plants, some feel a growing urgency. In Mihama, a three-reactor plant hugs the craggy shoreline. Its final unit shut down for inspection in December, meaning that the facility, for the first time in four decades, is producing no power. Within several months, the town will feel the economic pinch, as fewer workers draw salaries from the plant, Mayor Jitaro Yamaguchi said.

Yamaguchi faces a delicate balance. For economic reasons, his town needs the plant. But he also wants assurances that it is safe, and he hears from residents who say that stress tests alone won’t suffice.

So late last week, Yamaguchi took a four-hour train ride to Tokyo for a meeting with nuclear officials in the cabinet. His message: Create some new safety measures, and please hurry.

“They need to expedite the process,” Yamaguchi said. “They’ve been really slow. Really, really slow.”


Special correspondent Ayako Mie contributed to this report.

It shows that formal democracy has very little to do with decision making, but that still the population cannot be ignored.

A few days ago I saw in The Daily Telegraph that Japan has a foreign exchange deficit of $3b per month due to the import of fuel and probably foodstuffs and the reduction in industrial output and its export. The reserves of Japan are enormous and the colossal national debt is nearly all to people and institutions in Japan, but once the financiers start to doubt the prospects of Japan its standing in the world can go down very fast.
 
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