IronsightSniper
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A quick note, China seems to be continuously interested in Russian air defense systems, luckily, Moscow has wised up and reserves their S-400 system for domestic use first and foremost.
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How is the T-50 x-band active phased array radar potential in comparison to say the F-35 Electro-Optical Targeting System (EOTS) and the Electro-Optical Distributed Aperture System (DAS)...I'm just curious?
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MiG-29
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i have no idea, remember these are quiet new systems and no data is known, plus these systems have never faced each other so there is no historical record to have at least a peek about their performance.
The most you can get is the statements that sometimes are said or estimations.
such as
The new X-band active phased array radar has been installed on the third prototype of the T-50 fighter and showed a stable and effective performance comparable with the most advanced existing radar systems.
Theoretically must be on par but who knows, sorry i have no idea and i do not want to say my opinion because first i do not know, and second because estimations at these stage are mostly biased and pure theoretical
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well, first kanwa is not know in this forum for being reliable. Second, even if this report was true, do you seriously expect russian news outlets, specially official ones, to confirm that ??? You see, russian sources release info that its not mentioned anywhere in chinese sources, and kawna releases info that its not confirmed anywhere in russian sources. Where is the truth? you decide.
The russian military no longer lacks money. That was a reality in the 90´s. No longer so.
Besides, i dont think that russia and china trust each other enough to exchange technology. Both are powerful autoritarian regimes, and that makes both sides being suspicious of each other.
I think you are right on it, except that both Russia and China are also experiencing some money issues as lots of that extra cash was from the US, and our current regime has added layers and layers of new taxes in the form of government healthcare and debt on top of debt to pay for social programs, every employer will be required to buy healthcare for every employee, ain't gonna happen, they are killing businesses that operate on a very small profit margin by people who built these businesses. The US farm economy is going to be ravaged by the drought as even those who raise livestock are finding little forage, and in places they are mowing, bailing, or cutting as insulage for livestock thousands of acres of corn and soybeans. This will be the poorest harvest in the last half a century, so food and fuel prices will go up. Unemployement has never been like this in my lifetime, and many major industries have been practically destroyed by increased regulation and higher taxes. The current administration is making life difficult for domestic energy production and this isn't Europe where we could ride our bikes, this week, I have driven nearly a thousand miles in my work, and thats not unusual, I drove 550 miles thursday to deliver a new Ford pickup to an implement dealer, some weeks I make two or three trips in a group of 5 to 10 vehicles. Cheers Brat!
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I see...ok thanks for your honest answer! I appreciate it.
Brat, I'm not sure what you meant by the above... I mean the China part. Did you mean that China makes lots of money from exporting to the USA?
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IronsightSniper
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They're not comparable. As both the EOTS and the DAS are both electro-optical systems, it'd only be comparable to the OLS-35 IRST and future EO systems that the Russians are developing. The OLS-35's already in service and can detect the rear of a fighter from 90 km away and the front of a fighter from 50 km away. Some airforce specialists speculate that by 2017, they will be able to see a F-35 from 150 km away (no word on which hemisphere, but here's the ). The difference, however, is that the OLS-35 IRST can only scan in one direction, while the EOTS and DAS is 360. The Russians have developed and used 360 degree IRSTs before on some MiG variant who's name I don't remember, and some have speculated that the T-50 will feature such 360 degree IRSTs with 'more modern' IRSTs. Carlo Kopp speculates that such IRST would employ Quantum Well Infrared Photodetector (QWIP) sensors, which are really good for long-range detections.
Yes, that is my perception, and as the US economy is shrinking, it will inevitably shrink those economies that depend on those exports, and while I am aware that China exports to many different nations, I believe the US is the largest importer of Chinese goods and services, from household items to the berets the Army used to wear.
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