J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

No big (visible) structural modifications means that the original design is fine as expected ( recently it's said that the PAK FA has some structural problems - by Sukhoi CEO himself?), thus good news IMO.

It that reasonable to assume that J-20's avionics are a league ahead of the best of Rafale?

Speeder said:

No big (visible) structural modifications means that the original design is fine as expected ( recently it's said that the PAK FA has some structural problems - by Sukhoi CEO himself?), thus good news IMO.

It that reasonable to assume that J-20's avionics are a league ahead of the best of Rafale?

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No. We have no information what so ever about how far along China is with their AESA. All we know is that they probably have one, but no data means no data for comparison. Also way too early to know if there will be structural changes. For all we know the dimensions of the WS-15 will be different and force some differences, and they may still find structural problems later in tests. Russia went through 3 frames before realizing there might be structural issues with the PAK-FA.

Has anyone seen where the gun/cannon is located yet ? and what type of gun?

LOL ... One pic challenge ur eyes ! Do u find out the flaw ?

sdleio said:

LOL ... One pic challenge ur eyes ! Do u find out the flaw ?

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The security guy next to the 1st plane is smoking despite the fact that the sign says "no smoking"? This would be the only thing I can find, except that we got 4 planes in the pic, instead of 2...

vesicles said:

The security guy next to the 1st plane is smoking despite the fact that the sign says "no smoking"? This would be the only thing I can find, except that we got 4 planes in the pic, instead of 2...

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rofl...man, it that Camel?

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Let's see...the left 2 appear healthier. Are those “J-20 LIGHT” with medium fat?

sdleio said:

LOL ... One pic challenge ur eyes ! Do u find out the flaw ?

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those are pretty damn good PS!!! assuming it is fake, the author appears to have meticulously 'shopped' the correct angles, field of view etc from the original plane. If you look carefully at all the planes they are correctly placed from a single point of view with varying degrees of angles. The background is also made to appear as one seamless background properly stitched together to form a panorama.
Look at the real stabilizers they look 'right' and also in reference of the tail to the open cockpit. The 3rd one also appears to have the main weapons bay open as well.

^^

Clue 1: the first two are considerablely smaller despite being placed at about the same horizontal line as the others.

Clue 2: the men around the first two planes all seem to be Cantonese stock. :lol:

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No. We have no information what so ever about how far along China is with their AESA. All we know is that they probably have one, but no data means no data for comparison. Also way too early to know if there will be structural changes. For all we know the dimensions of the WS-15 will be different and force some differences, and they may still find structural problems later in tests. Russia went through 3 frames before realizing there might be structural issues with the PAK-FA.

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Exactly, and to the point as the second phase of flight testing will likely begin away from the Chengdu daily airshow, although they were obviously pulling some Gs, the serious High AoA will likely begin, as will pushing the top of the envelope as well. This first part has been the prelims, tweaking the CS and getting some benchmark performance numbers, now the fun begins, did 2002 fly? I saw some video, so I'm assuming it did, and I'm also assuming that 2001 is gone?

vesicles said:

The security guy next to the 1st plane is smoking despite the fact that the sign says "no smoking"? This would be the only thing I can find, except that we got 4 planes in the pic, instead of 2...

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Lol, I'll be very surprised if his supervisor let him get away with this blatant violation of rules!