J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI

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  1. PhilFYW
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    This shows a few things:
    Supersonic maneuverability is a requirement for 5th gen fighters so it is not surprising that J-20 possess a superior supersonic ability compared to 4th gen fighters.
    Supersonic maneuverability is usually utilised for BVR combat to improve BVR performance.

    I think this ends the debate on J-20's kinematics capability until more information comes out.
     
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    Put another way, who is the primary competitor for Russian arms in the global weapons marketplace? If the Americans downplay Chinese capabilities fallaciously, it's to enhance their position in strategic competition. If the Russians downplay Chinese capabilities fallaciously, it's to enhance their positions in the arms marketplace.

    This isn't xenophobia, it's just business. It's more insulting to call someone delusional than dishonest, because the latter is at least the norm in business and politics. When was the last time you heard Pepsi say Coke had a better product and you should buy Coke instead? When was the last time you heard, say, Labour tell their voters not to vote for them and to vote for the Tories instead? It's in the same vein; the Russians will downplay Chinese military capability to encourage potential buyers to buy Russian instead of Chinese.
     
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    Intentional or not, delusional or dishonest, we can agree the information provided is quite surprising, the claim outrageous, and pretty much untrue. It's this sort of sinister/ ignorant journalism that hits the majority that is negatively impacting China. Similar level of journalism would be an article about how all Chinese people kidnap pet dogs for their dinner. I'm sorry but once you're on the receiving end of such garbage, it incites an emotional response, a desire to correct it, and anger at the person spreading it. It's something that's easy for all humans to empathise because we've all been through such frustrations. Even though this is relatively minuscule, this is a military forum and we like to discuss these sort of things, often with more passion than rationality.

    There is absolutely no evidence of Chinese xenophobia displayed in the last few pages. Inst could you please indicate where you thought I was being unfair? I would recommend you view some Russian boards if you think this forum is xenophobic. Those guys make the Indians look like China lovers. In any case what was posted in the last few pages is far from xenophobia, rather just expression disdain for the person writing the article (while providing excellent reasons why). No race/nationality based insults were posted. Nothing even close. No indication of a dislike of Russian people or culture either. So I don't know why you would even write that unless you are just very sensitive about these things and anything not 100% positive written about Russians is considered "xenophobic" against them.
     
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    It doesn't look like 78238. More like 78233.

    [​IMG]
     
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    What is that mean ? So are there 33 copies of J 20?
     
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    73273-61X1X=12263 12X6X--->126th Brigade XX2X3--->23rd plane of the Brigade
     
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    Interesting! The photo was taken at Zhuhai Airshow, why nobody else shot that number?
     
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    But 78233 has been identified. It's even in your gallery.
     
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    I was referring to the number on the 2nd aircraft.
     
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