J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI

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  1. Klon
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    I prefer to look at these things on a case-by-case basis.

    That sentence was in fact not intended to be fully in earnest, but it's indeed unrealistic to expect that to be understood at SDF.
     
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    If I'm not wrong our very own Deino wrote the Combat Aircraft article! Maybe he needs to write a retraction?
     
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    Here is probably the most accurate Western analysis of the J-20's RCS, done by Carlo Kopp back in 2011. The analysis contains numerous pictures.
    http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2011-03.html
     
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    Kopp himself caveated that the model wasn’t accurate. It was a rough early assessment on his part.
     
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    If this is wrong, then indeed I must apologise and should correct this part.... but who then is the rource of the statement, that the curent ones lack a gun?

    Thanks and all the best for 2019,
    Deino
     
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    I think it might have been yankeesama but I'm not certain
     
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    Yup
     
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    there was a time many believed this is where the gun port located. looked like nothing can be sure now.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Umm no. People speculated that that was the gas vent for the gun port, not the gun port itself. The speculated position for the gun port is much further up the fuselage.

    We also know from the same source that said the J-20 currently doesn’t mount a gun that there is a place for it to be mounted.
     
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    Dogfights don't occur like they used to anymore over Vietnam. Modern fourth-generation fighters have engaged other fourth-generation (and older) fighters with missiles, almost completely. Just look at the examples in Iraq, Yugoslavia, Ethiopian-Eritrean War, etc.

    And a stealth fighter should not be getting into engagements that require a gun anyway. If it ever gets to that case, it would make sense for the J-20 to retire to the back and allow accompanying fourth-generation fighters (J-10/11/16) in the formation to engage. The guns are with them.
     
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