J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI

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Phead128

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People who say China copied Mig 1.44 is dumb.

Look at Mig 1.44, it's intake manifolds look like a gigantic square vacuum cleaner. I'm sure the edges where they merge and meet will deflect radar waves like crazy.

They are just salty that China has emerged as a world leader in aviation technology, exceeding that of Soviet/Russian aviation technology.

Mig 1.44 is an abandoned stealth design that barely got off the drawing board. J-20 looks completely different from Mig 1.44, the same people who tried to say J-10 is from Lavi. wow.
 

Deino

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People who say China copied Mig 1.44 is dumb.

Look at Mig 1.44, it's intake manifolds look like a gigantic square vacuum cleaner. I'm sure the edges where they merge and meet will deflect radar waves like crazy.

They are just salty that China has emerged as a world leader in aviation technology, exceeding that of Soviet/Russian aviation technology.

Mig 1.44 is an abandoned stealth design that barely got off the drawing board. J-20 looks completely different from Mig 1.44, the same people who tried to say J-10 is from Lavi. wow.


Pardon, but since you say yourself it is a plain stupid issue, why raising it again?
AFAIK during the last posts or even pages none claim that anymore ... so why again putting BS back on the agenda??

And even more your comparison is way off since there are confirmed connections. That does not mean the J-10 is a Lavi-clone or a development, but we know, even Song Wencong was at least once very close to a real Lavi. :)

IAI Lavi + Chinese delegation - Song Wencong 198x - 1.jpg IAI Lavi + Chinese delegation - Song Wencong 198x - 2.jpg
 

jobjed

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Pardon, but since you say yourself it is a plain stupid issue, why raising it again?
AFAIK during the last posts or even pages none claim that anymore ... so why again putting BS back on the agenda??

And even more your comparison is way off since there are confirmed connections. That does not mean the J-10 is a Lavi-clone or a development, but we know, even Song Wencong was at least once very close to a real Lavi. :)

From Yang Wei's (JF-17, J-20 chief designer) testimony, the Israelis taught Yang and his team how to develop digital FBW systems. Because of Israeli mentoring, the development of the J-10's complex FBW system was relatively smooth.
 

plawolf

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Pardon, but since you say yourself it is a plain stupid issue, why raising it again?
AFAIK during the last posts or even pages none claim that anymore ... so why again putting BS back on the agenda??

And even more your comparison is way off since there are confirmed connections. That does not mean the J-10 is a Lavi-clone or a development, but we know, even Song Wencong was at least once very close to a real Lavi. :)

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I know you jest, but that photo really proves nothing. Would a picture of a LockMart delectation in front of a Typhoon/Rafale make the next LockMart 6th gen offering based of the Eurocanards?

There was indeed collaboration and assistance between China and Israel, especially in FBW. But the scope and depth of that exhange is in a totally different league compared to the routine and systematic exchanges and collaboration that goes on as a matter of course between the various Western nations.

But let’s just leave this topic here, as this has been rehashed endless times already.
 

Deino

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I know you jest, but that photo really proves nothing. Would a picture of a LockMart delectation in front of a Typhoon/Rafale make the next LockMart 6th gen offering based of the Eurocanards?

There was indeed collaboration and assistance between China and Israel, especially in FBW. But the scope and depth of that exhange is in a totally different league compared to the routine and systematic exchanges and collaboration that goes on as a matter of course between the various Western nations.

But let’s just leave this topic here, as this has been rehashed endless times already.

Indeed .... :p:D
 
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