J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI

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ougoah

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this was based on the actual wind tunnel model created way back.

Fanart based off one image of a triplane MODEL in a tunnel way back. No scale. No indication of that particular model being accurately reflective of actual program. Pointless discussion anyway. Long dead project as far as we know.
 

Orthan

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Do you think that the WS-10 engines present in the j-20 are a stopgap measure that production j-20´s will use until a new engine becomes available? i have read rumours that ws-15 has encountered problems (has the engine been flight-tested yet?)
 

ougoah

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There were rumours of serious WS15 problems but from sources that have been wildly incorrect in the past and remain incorrect on a few issues, removing all their reputation. I think it mostly came from one reporter famous for getting things wrong and making things up along with accurate reports thrown in to make pieces seem more legitimate. Having said that, WS15 is nowhere to be seen so far and only recently have WS10s been made more reliable and produced in greater frequency, enough for J-10 to be looking into single engined TVC versions of WS10s. Maybe we'll see more of WS15 in coming years as everyone has expected. 2020 or beyond at the earliest I think was common consensus?
 

Phead128

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Friends, I need help finding some pretty famous footage.... I'm sure one of the Chinese members can help...

Where is the J-20 footage @ 0:06 come from??


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Figaro

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Do you think that the WS-10 engines present in the j-20 are a stopgap measure that production j-20´s will use until a new engine becomes available? i have read rumours that ws-15 has encountered problems (has the engine been flight-tested yet?)
Obviously, they're a stopgap measure until the WS-15 finishes development. And regarding the allegedly "problems", I hope you are not referring to that bogus SCMP article about the WS-15 exploding ... a lack of news does not mean a lack of progress.
 
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timepass

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METAMATERIALS: COULD CHINA'S NEW 'INVISIBILITY CLOAKS' MAKE FIGHTER JETS INVISIBLE . . .

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China is mass producing metamaterials in a state-run lab that reportedly functions as 'invisibility cloaks' and could be used to make fighter jets impossible to detect, according to local media.

A broadcast by China Central Television Station (CCTV), revealed that a laboratory in Shenzhen, in southeastern China, is manufacturing various types of highly technological materials—including invisibility, anti-burning and anti-icing cloaks.

However, the functions of these materials have not yet been disclosed. Chinese news platform Sina reported that the assembly line is directly related to the military and the materials are likely to be used to camouflage J-20 fighter jets.

Metamaterials, known in China as "supermaterials," are materials engineered to have a property that is not found in nature. They are created from assemblies of multiple elements fashioned from various metals or plastics.

Some metamaterials can bend visible light (infrared radiation) through a novel optical material that effectively means they could act as an invisibility device. According to the CCTV broadcast, those materials are now being manufactured by an assembly line and will be used to help further China’s aviation industry.

Scientists are reportedly producing the materials at the State Key Laboratory of Metamaterial Electromagnet Modulation Technology, which was established in 2011 and is based in the Guangqi Advanced Institute of Technology. According to its website, the lab has an annual production capacity of more than 107,600 square feet of metamaterial plates.

“State key” indicates the organization is state-funded or run by the Chinese government.

The Sina report also confirmed that the materials will likely be used by the military, specifically for camouflaging the J-20 fighter jets as its chief engineer Yang Wei is also on the laboratory’s academic board.

Last December, a video of a man demonstrating the abilities of a quantum invisibility cloak went viral worldwide after it was shared to Weibo, a Chinese social media platform.

Some believed the clip was authentic as Chen Shiqu, the deputy director of Criminal Investigations Bureau of the Ministry of Public Security, was the user who posted the footage. However, many doubted the validity of the clip because it did not appear on the official Chinese government website or the Criminal Investigation Bureau page.

Zhu Zhensong, a producer at Quantum Video production company, told the Liberation Daily that the video was a sham and probably edited together with a plastic cloth.

"Softwares such as Adobe's After Effects, Nuke or Blackmagic Fusion can edit the background and blend the object into it. The effect has previously seen in a lot of action movies," he said.

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's J-20 Fighter First Offshore Fighting Training] China Air Force spokesperson Shen Jinke announced on May 9th that China’s newly developed stealth fighter, the J-20, has launched its first real battle on the sea in recent days. Military training will further enhance the Air Force's comprehensive combat capabilities.
The spokesperson briefed the Air Force on the in-depth study and implementation of Xi Jinping's idea of strengthening the military. In accordance with the strategic goal of "a unity of air, space, and defense," the Air Force's high-tech weaponry has developed into a system in recent years, and a series of new fighters have been put into training in the new era. He introduced that after the J-20 fighter planes were equipped with Air Force combat troops, the flying talents grew steadily, practical training was gradually carried out, and air combat training was conducted in combination with J-16, J-10C and other multi-type fighter aircrafts in the actual combat background. The exercises played an important role in providing strong support for the Air Force’s new combat capability.
A spokesperson for the Air Force stated that the J-20 fighter's deployment of air, space, and practical training will help the Air Force better shoulder the sacred mission of safeguarding national sovereignty, security, and territorial integrity.
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