Is it? More like covered with plastic cap to my eyes.
J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V
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Thanks, nice so possible but no sureAre you talking about the pentagon shaped hole?
That is probably one of the 360 degree EO PDS apertures on J-20, similar in physical configuration to F-35's EO DAS
in the F-35 where are the 6 high resolution Infrared sensors/apertures ?
If J-20 have it as F-35 a system which allow to pilot look more fast on 360° detect also missiles
considering F-35 is less agile than the J-20 the F-35 can lost this advantage for compensate her less good agility it is very important, ofc that concerns only or almost close combat VWR in range of IR missiles or guns.
For MR/LR A2A combat the F-35 according all datas i have is more stealth and enough clearly look the J-20 in first even if this one have a very powerful radars as APG-77 2000 modules surely 20 km.
Remains the AAM load for J-20 6 mnimum maybe possible 8 + ext F-35 now max 10 whose 4int and after 6 internaly with adapters for 2 in 4 main ext HP a max of 16
Last point right now F-35A have agun others in option J-20 never see.
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On f-35 it is at similar positions.
We do not know if J-20's EO PDS operates similar to EO DAS or if it is just a 360 degree MAWS, or something in between. They might even have developed it to successively offer upgrades to it over time.
You point well.On f-35 it is at similar positions.
We do not know if J-20's EO PDS operates similar to EO DAS or if it is just a 360 degree MAWS, or something in between. They might even have developed it to successively offer upgrades to it over time.
In this case Missile Approach Warning System (MAWS) warning for ennemy missiles
but don' t allow to pilot look on 360° as with AN/AAQ-37 i have correct ?
you mean for J-20?
Well that's the ambiguity I'm describing -- that we don't know what J-20's EO PDS can or cannot do.
Yes for J-20 in fact i think with infos you provide ofc very difficult to know... the system on J-20 is less efficient mainly less versatile.
But is is clear if F-35 is only to have this capacity " look more fast " that compensate her more low agility with J-20 or T-50 if one other have this capacity it is different no or almost, despite that F-35 build in big number much more than others and again the number despite technology very very important and why Chinese AF keep J-7/8, A-5 seeing some guys surprised...
remains the F-35 is more capable for A2G missions in stealth mode with bombs of 2000 lbs J-20 as F-22 can host max 1000 lbs almost sure.
For 6 LR AAMs in the weapons bay of J-20 the problem is size of PL-12 wings much more big than AIM-120C 67 vs 45 cm T-50 have a variant of R-77 to 42 cm but weapons bay in tandem less wide and i have see article almost sume max 4 LR AAMs internaly or 4 x 1000 lbs bombs.
AIM-120C/D 3.7 m x 18 cm body/45 cm wings AIM-120A/B same but wings 53 cm
PL-12 3.9 m x 20/67
AA-12/R-77 3.7 x 20/42
For 8 cm between the AIM-120 variants F-22 host 4 or 6... very few but in int weapons bay space is very limited, so for J-20 seems very just if he can have 6.
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The F-35 is "very agile", you've fallen victim to the constant ca-caphony that the F-35 is a lumbering "bomb truck", it is NOT.
The F-35s agility may exceed that of the J-20 and most other fighter aircraft on the planet! It was designed to match the F-16, which was our first "unstable" fly by wire fighter, and which remains "SCARY". In fact the F-16s fly by wire had to be "dialed back", as too many jet jockeys were putting themselves to sleep. The F-35s fly by wire is also "dialed back", the aircraft joy stick will not "input" all the performance the airframe itself is capable of?
My point is that J-20 is likely very maneuverable, but the F-35 is indeed much smaller physically, and utilizes the principle of "mass centralization", in other words its much easier to "spin" a baseball, than a soccer ball?? So until we see the J-20 given a full on "airshow" type demonstration??? we will be in the dark about its actual to the limit capabilities, we've seen no max turn rate demonstrations on the J-20, nor have we seen a full on military flight demo of the F-35??
Have we seen two yellow J-20s flying side by side before?
As far as I know not, but something tells me that this image is indeed a ps-job showing the same birds seconds later and psed together; but I cannot prove it ...
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