J-15 Carrier Multirole Fighter thread

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    No way to visually confirm but the article from yankeesama claims that it was taken at a carrier-based training facility, so Huludao would be the most likely possibility.

    The original article from yankeesama:
    In summary, he thinks that the emergence of the twin-seat J-15S might be to do with training pilots for the J-15D. Could someone provide a better summary or translation of the bolded parts?
     
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    It's been five years since the establishment of carrier borne fighter fleet. The core members of the fleet have been more or less trained with the help of “海山鹰”(JL-9 carrier borne variant" and J-15. In short what took J-15s so long to start appearing?(rhetorical question)

    Although it's a little late, having J-15s help with training is not a bad thing. Perhaps... when Liaoning returns to regular use (as opposed to as a training carrier I guess), J-15S will serve another function -- let the pilots experience tandem seat J-15 variants in advance. This way, when the real J-15D has been delivered, it will take shorter to get used to the new plane.

    If the carrier has enough room, future carrier borne fighters will need to work along side 4th gen carrier borne fighters (Chinese 4th gen) to carry out surface attack missions. Whether future J-15's which carry large amounts of ammunition will undergo similar modification will be an interesting detail to look for when analyzing future Chinese carrier operation duties.

    By modification, he meant the SU-33UD modification to base Su-33, "把前翼、机翼和平尾面积均放大之后,苏-33UB将机翼折叠转轴外扩到平尾尖之外,这样一来平尾就无需折叠,也不会导致折叠后飞机的高度难以塞进航母机库。"
    Exactly that
     
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    Here is a side by side comparison of Su33UB and SU33. I know these are trumpeter model kits, but I it's a good representation of the location of which the wings are folded. SU-33UB has its hinges further out along the wings, thus the horizontal stabilizers don't need to be folded. Wouldn't this be too big for a carrier though? Flankers are already massive. SU-33UB is like a good 7m wider when folded
     
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    Su-33's wing span is about 14m. Su-33UB being 7m wider doesn't sound right. According to the diagram in this blog post, Su-33 is 7.4m wide after folding, F-18E/F is 9.32m wide after folding, and Rafale is 10m wide. Su-33UB probably won't be the widest bird ever put into a hangar.
     
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    I just eyed balled it, guess i was way off.
     
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    Much appreciated!
     
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    i say the J-15 is far too long. its 4 metres longer than f/a 18. if they want to park more on the deck of a carrier with a significant smaller island then then may have to resort to J 31
     
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    By this point, the general consensus seems to be that the J-15 has filled its role as a temporary solution, and that the PLANAF is looking to acquire a next-generation carrier-borne fighter. Whichever aircraft will succeed the J-15 likely won't be the J-31, but will likely still be produced by Shenyang.

    The J-15 is big, but its large size isn't only reason to induct a new model of aircraft. If the PLAN wants to compete with the F-35, then they'll need to come up with something of the same generation, at the very least, so an upgrade in all aspects is required.
     
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