J-15 carrier-borne fighter thread

FORBIN

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I did. It still seems an odd statement given the number of flight accidents we've been hearing about for years now.
Well @Blackstone ... I can find thousands similar "cover up" by American corporation or agency or SOE or White House ... be fair and no biased please

we are talking about military aircraft accident here ..... hard to find? ;) perhaps you need to google harder and harder .. you will find it somewhere ... reported by Japanese biased medias or government
It is obvious he get right for aircrafts or all the rest and you know perfectly it your not " rookies " here

For US or NATO aircrafts accidents infos appears in the hours that follow

Main point with always these same useless disputes damage for feeling between Westerners and Chinese !
 
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delft

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For US or NATO aircrafts accidents infos appears in the hours that follow
I well remember the trouble there was some fifty years ago to get such information out of the Royal Air Force. There was even the case of the agricultural aircraft working over East Anglia that was hit by a RAF fighter jet because it was working in a secret low flying route. IIRC both pilots were killed.
 

Air Force Brat

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Well @Blackstone ... I can find thousands similar "cover up" by American corporation or agency or SOE or White House ... be fair and no biased please

we are talking about military aircraft accident here ..... hard to find? ;) perhaps you need to google harder and harder .. you will find it somewhere ... reported by Japanese biased medias or government

Nah! your really can't, the only military aircraft accident that was misidentified intentionally was an original F-117 when that was still a very black project, and the aforementioned CIA birds were reserialed as the MC-130Es that were lost...

There are NOT thousands, not even hundreds, LOL
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
Nah! your really can't, the only military aircraft accident that was misidentified intentionally was an original F-117 when that was still a very black project, and the aforementioned CIA birds were reserialed as the MC-130Es that were lost...

There are NOT thousands, not even hundreds, LOL

I was referring to explosion cover up that @Blackstone refereed to in China

I agree there is hardly any cover up of aircraft incident both in China and the US

The original statement from Blackstone was regarding Military aircraft accident cover up in China, which he claimed happening in China and I challenged him to find any .. and he simply couldn't ... instead he gave an example (wrong) of explosion cover up by a corporation in China which I said it happens often in the US as well
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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I was referring to explosion cover up that @Blackstone refereed to in China

I agree there is hardly any cover up of aircraft incident both in China and the US

The original statement from Blackstone was regarding Military aircraft accident cover up in China, which he claimed happening in China and I challenged him to find any .. and he simply couldn't ... instead he gave an example (wrong) of explosion cover up by a corporation in China which I said it happens often in the US as well

Thank you for your clarification, I think you would agree that in general that in the past, it was more common for the USSR/China etc to conceal accidents that were considered damaging to the state, or someone high ups reputation?? While I concur that corporations/private entities, and the OBAMA administration, and our "INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY??????, and our liberal media gave them a pass...

They never give conservative entities or individuals a pass since conservatives are considered the enemy of the liberal elitists!

I do agree with you that we have seen a much more open China, and even Russia, although lying about little green men?? even got a pass here from some of our more??? AHEM! AHEM! more ahhhhhhhhh, more aahhhhhhhhh???? well you know members who aren't conservative???? LOL

and I will agree with you that China in particular has been much more open, not sure President Xi has helped that??? and all those walls at Chengdu aren't there for "sharing time?? LOL
 
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Jeff Head

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Guys...

GET BACK ON TOPIC, to discussing the J-15.

The discussion about who is or is not most open about reporting accidents is OFF TOPIC here.

The two accidents have been reported on this thread, as they should. Getting into q flame war or fight about who is most open just devolves the thread into flaming.

So...stop. It should never have come up.

BACK ON TOPIC.

DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS MODERATION
 

delft

Brigadier
Nah! your really can't, the only military aircraft accident that was misidentified intentionally was an original F-117 when that was still a very black project, and the aforementioned CIA birds were reserialed as the MC-130Es that were lost...

There are NOT thousands, not even hundreds, LOL
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I remember reading many years ago that B-52's were sporting serial numbers that didn't agree with the version they were. IIRC at the time ( 1980's?) it was an old story concerning aircraft in the time of the war against Vietnam. So it probably didn't concern aircraft accidents.
 

Richard Santos

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With weapon pylons on the folded part of the wing, is the loading procedure unfold the wings in the hanger to load ordinance onto these pylons, then fold the wings back up again with weapons attached, or the ordinance is attached directly onto the pylons while the wings remain folded?
 
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