J-15 carrier-borne fighter thread

Jeff Head

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What follows is all twenty-one of the known production J-15s being seen taking part in exercise aboard the Liaoning.

Not all at once...I used three different videos to get thise pics, and 112 is the only one I could not find a pic of on deck...si if someone knows of a decent hi-res pic of J-15 #112 seen n deck, please let me know: 100-104.

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Jeff Head

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Impressive.

They have gotten every single one of the production aircraft out to the Liaoning and tested them...and they are doing it ften.

The ship is capable of carrying them all at once...I just have to wonder if they have done that.

The most we have seen on deck at once is 13...but I have to believe that they have had more than that on the ship.

either way...they have had them all on the ship at one tme or another.

As I say...impressive.
 

davidau

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Four J-15 left Liaoning flying in formation in South China Sea area....

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bd popeye

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Impressive.

They have gotten every single one of the production aircraft out to the Liaoning and tested them...and they are doing it often.

The ship is capable of carrying them all at once...I just have to wonder if they have done that.

The most we have seen on deck at once is 13...but I have to believe that they have had more than that on the ship.

either way...they have had them all on the ship at one tme or another.

As I say...impressive.

In the words of that famous Galatican Darth Vader I'd echo "Most impressive".

I'd just like to know what sort of flight ops the ship is doing.
How many sorties a day?
What is the length of of those sorties? You know..how long are those J-15s staying aloft?
Are they launching with any weapons?
How reliable are those J-15s?
Have they fodded any engines yet?

I wonder because to me the bottom line is how does the PLAN operate these big airplanes? They burn a lot of fuel. I think launching off CV-16 WITHOUT a full bag of gas? (in my opinion) Just how do they do this? I think their sorties maybe truncated. Maybe only 45 minutes to an hour. Perhaps the PLAAF is lending a hand are refueling these big birds.

Of course I could be incorrect in my assessment.
 
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FORBIN

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In the words of that famous Galatican Darth Vader I'd echo "Most impressive".

I'd just like to know what sort of flight ops the ship is doing.
1 /How many sorties a day?
2/ What is the length of of those sorties? You know..how long are those J-15s staying aloft?
3/ Are they launching with any weapons?
4/ How reliable are those J-15s?
Have they fodded any engines yet?

I put number for your questions
1/ Sorties for the CV or one fighter ?
2/ In general a fighter have internal fuel for 1.5/2 hour, reactors consumes a lot
3/ We have see on IR AAMs, MR AAMs, YJ-83, refueling pods, bombs ? but never see Kh-31/YJ-91.

Have they fodded any engines yet?
?

Advantages vs Su-33 :

Better radar, electronic
more light of 1 t with composite
More powerful engines can help for CATOBAR system but always a weapon load limited with it.
More versatile.
 
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Hendrik_2000

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Here is the statistic on J 15. 9 ton of fuel and 5 ton of weapon load.
That is plenty of load . the usual western press meme "J 15 cannot carry much load is bunk" Can any one guess what is the endurance based on fuel use. In the Dec exercise we see J 15 fire one YJ83

Refueling configuration Buddy-Buddy, another prototype J-15, registered 553, took off from the aircraft carrier Liaoning with a pod UPEACE-1A from Russia installed between the engines.

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Here is down another photo that shows more clearly that refueling pod on another prototype 556, knowing that in 2014 the Chinese naval air pilots have already completed takeoff tests, from Liaoning , with 9 tons of fuel oil and 5 internal tons of external armaments.


A first J-15 can therefore take off with 6.5 tons of weapons but less fuel, and regain its maximum autonomy after flying through the supply from another J-15, although according to numerical simulations, J-15 could take off with full and 6.5 tons of external loads, but this would be done under certain conditions - for example
must the headwind on takeoff or 30 knots to a minimum and that the take-off is makes the point 195 meters, which then immobilize the oblique track for the recovery of aircraft.

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Other asymmetric payload configurations were also tested during this test campaign in September 2013. You will discover them for yourself in the four videos attached.

As for the more "classic" mode, namely that of air defense, the J-15 has already shown in two different configurations, one where at least one missile air-air medium-range PL-12 is worn between the motors plus 2 PL-8 missiles on the wingtips, and one that is seen most often, that is a PL-12 and PL-8 under each wing.

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In "Attack of sea targets mode," the same 552 was filmed to take off and carry 2 Air-sea missiles YJ-83KH , dual 2 PL-8 for its self-defense missiles.
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bd popeye

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Excellent post Hendrick_2000. I clearly see the buddy store but I see no external tanks to store the fuel to re-fuel other J-15s..

FORBIN, I do not know how the PLAN counts sorties. The USN goes by one aircraft + one launch + one Mission + one recovery equals one sortie. Usually lasting no more than an hour and 1/2. Except in the case of a E-2 Hawkeye which usually goes out for three hours.

A Fodded engine is an engine that has ingested a foreign object that has damaged that engine to the point it needs to be repaired or replaced.. This does happen and renders the aircraft unusable. And there are major breakdowns with high performance jet aircraft not to mention many other issues with aircraft. I just wonder how the PLAN is handling this???..

Hey kwaigonegin .. I wonder if they have "crunched" any aircraft yet?? As cautious as they seem to be I doubt it.

Ahh USN aircraft normally launch with the amount of fuel you mentioned...1 1/2 to 2 hours.
 
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