J-15 carrier-borne fighter thread

[Hyperwarp]

Uh, how did I miss that. Can they preform differential action?

You mean move independently from the other? That would be a NO. No canard based flankers move their canards asymmetrically. The PAK-FA LEVCONs may move independently, not sure though.

Here is some Su-33 footage including Cobra @ 2:20 onwards:

 

[Quickie]

Uh, how did I miss that. Can they preform differential action?

They're very much a part of the FCS and have to work in coordination with the rest of the flight control surfaces of the aircraft.

 

[A.Man]

On April 27, PLAN lost first J-15 and pilot on a land training mission.

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[Blackstone]

On April 27, PLAN lost first J-15 and pilot on a land training mission.

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So, what does "engine problem" mean and what model engine failed?

 

[Ashbringer_NEU]

So, what does "engine problem" mean and what model engine failed?

Well, according to CNR or China National Radio, the accident was because of failure of J-15's flight control system.

CNR said that during the landing training, Pilot Zhang Chao's J-15 suddenly had an elec flight control system failure, he tired his best to control the plane by pushing rod, however it did not work, so he ejected and hit the ground.

It seems that the J-15 had the incident when it is going to land, so its altitude is pretty low, the pilot tried to push the rod, so maybe J-15's nose was rising up quickly, when he ejected, the direction of ejection could be level, or even towards to ground. Thus there was no time for him to adjust, he directly hit the ground after ejection.

Unfortunately, PLAN lost a great and experienced pilot. T-T

 

[Engineer]

So, what does "engine problem" mean and what model engine failed?

J-15 uses Al-31F.

 

[Blackstone]

Well, according to CNR or China National Radio, the accident was because of failure of J-15's flight control system.

CNR said that during the landing training, Pilot Zhang Chao's J-15 suddenly had an elec flight control system failure, he tired his best to control the plane by pushing rod, however it did not work, so he ejected and hit the ground.

It seems that the J-15 had the incident when it is going to land, so its altitude is pretty low, the pilot tried to push the rod, so maybe J-15's nose was rising up quickly, when he ejected, the direction of ejection could be level, or even towards to ground. Thus there was no time for him to adjust, he directly hit the ground after ejection.

Unfortunately, PLAN lost a great and experienced pilot. T-T

Thanks for the information, but it does contradict Alert 5's bad engine story:

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China revealed the first fatal J-15 accident
China has admitted that a J-15 pilot was killed back in Apr. 27 this year. Zhang Chao was carrying out simulated carrier landings when he encountered trouble with the jet’s engines. He ejected from his stricken aircraft at the last minute and later died of his injuries.

 

[Ashbringer_NEU]

Thanks for the information, but it does contradict Alert 5's bad engine story:

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China revealed the first fatal J-15 accident
China has admitted that a J-15 pilot was killed back in Apr. 27 this year. Zhang Chao was carrying out simulated carrier landings when he encountered trouble with the jet’s engines. He ejected from his stricken aircraft at the last minute and later died of his injuries.

I am not sure, because from CNR, which is an official media in China, I just saw flight control failure, there is no engine problem in the report. My company has no access to Chinese website, so I cannot put a link to you now, sorry.

 

[solarz]

Well, according to CNR or China National Radio, the accident was because of failure of J-15's flight control system.

CNR said that during the landing training, Pilot Zhang Chao's J-15 suddenly had an elec flight control system failure, he tired his best to control the plane by pushing rod, however it did not work, so he ejected and hit the ground.

It seems that the J-15 had the incident when it is going to land, so its altitude is pretty low, the pilot tried to push the rod, so maybe J-15's nose was rising up quickly, when he ejected, the direction of ejection could be level, or even towards to ground. Thus there was no time for him to adjust, he directly hit the ground after ejection.

Unfortunately, PLAN lost a great and experienced pilot. T-T

Unfortunately, the PLA, for historical reasons, had drilled into its pilots' training that they should risk their lives to save their aircraft.

This kind of mentality needs to change. China has reached a point where it is easier to replace aircrafts than replace experienced pilots.

 

[Ashbringer_NEU]

Unfortunately, the PLA, for historical reasons, had drilled into its pilots' training that they should risk their lives to save their aircraft.

This kind of mentality needs to change. China has reached a point where it is easier to replace aircrafts than replace experienced pilots.

I agree, PLA pilots usually will try their best to save their planes, and many PLA pilots dead for this. But many times PLA pilots chose to save plane instead of ejection because they were just above people's living area, if they eject they will survive, but planes may hit and kill people on the ground (actually it happened in 2014, remember a J-10 had an engine accident and the pilot ejected? The J-10 then hit a house in Hongguang near Chengdu, killed 2 people). So PLA pilots often tried to fly their planes to unmanned area before ejection, but usually it is too late. Anyway, one of the most respectful traditions of PLA is that they always prepare to sacrifice themselves for saving people.

For this specific incident, as far as I know, the entire accident happened in just few seconds, Zhang Chao lost his control when he was going to land, so he tried to push the nose down at first, but then he realized he cannot save it so he ejected, however, it is too late. If he could directly eject just like you said, maybe he would survive. Perhaps he wanted to save the plane so AVIC's engineer could figure out what cause the accident, or maybe he just pushed rod first subconsciously.