J-15 carrier-borne fighter thread
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Hendrik_2000
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This is what happened when you depend on other country for your armament. You just don''t have any control. Not too mention that you are also likely liable to extortion from whole range of supply from parts to service. Integration is another problem trying to fuse component ,sensor from different origin is nightmare. Glad China took the right and more difficult route for their Carrier fighter.Where is B787?
India Complains About Mig-29K/KUB Performance
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July 11, 2016
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India reports several troubles with the performance and maintenance of its MiG-29K/KUB (NATO reporting name: Fulcrum-F) naval multirole fighters, as well as with Vikramaditya (former “Admiral Gorshkov”/Kiev-class) aircraft carrier.
The fighters built by Russia’s RSK-MiG corporation (a subsidiary of the United Aircraft Corporation, Russian acronym: OAK) come short of Indian Navy`s (IN) requirements, a source in India`s Defense Ministry said.
“Russian MiG-29K/KUB multirole fighter jets could have been delivered to India in a substandard configuration. Several aircraft have been modified and brought up to the required operational level literally at the runways of IN`s airbases. We have several troubles with the integration of foreign-originated electronic components with the aircraft`s avionics suites. Sometimes India has to acquire such elements directly from its overseas partners. IN’s Vikramaditya aircraft carrier also faces with several shortcomings,” the source said.
He added that both ship and fighters were to be refined to reach the combat-ready status. “At the same time, Vikramaditya and MiG-29K/KUB fighters have a great potential. These pieces of military equipment have significantly beefed up India`s defensive capacities,” the source added.
According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute’s (SIPRI) arms transfers database, Russia was to supply 45 MiG-29K/KUB fighter jets (including 8 MiG-29KUB twin-seat operational trainers) to India.
The first batch of 15 aircraft (including 4 MiG-29KUBs) was delivered to New Delhi in 2010-2011. The deliveries of the remaining 29 fighters (including 4 MiG-29KUBs) started in 2012. As of late 2015, 38 MiG-29K/KUB planes were supplied to the customer.
The Vikramaditya aircraft carrier worth USD2.3 billion was delivered to India in 2013.
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India Complains About Mig-29K/KUB Performance
By -
July 11, 2016
256
India reports several troubles with the performance and maintenance of its MiG-29K/KUB (NATO reporting name: Fulcrum-F) naval multirole fighters, as well as with Vikramaditya (former “Admiral Gorshkov”/Kiev-class) aircraft carrier.
The fighters built by Russia’s RSK-MiG corporation (a subsidiary of the United Aircraft Corporation, Russian acronym: OAK) come short of Indian Navy`s (IN) requirements, a source in India`s Defense Ministry said.
“Russian MiG-29K/KUB multirole fighter jets could have been delivered to India in a substandard configuration. Several aircraft have been modified and brought up to the required operational level literally at the runways of IN`s airbases. We have several troubles with the integration of foreign-originated electronic components with the aircraft`s avionics suites. Sometimes India has to acquire such elements directly from its overseas partners. IN’s Vikramaditya aircraft carrier also faces with several shortcomings,” the source said.
He added that both ship and fighters were to be refined to reach the combat-ready status. “At the same time, Vikramaditya and MiG-29K/KUB fighters have a great potential. These pieces of military equipment have significantly beefed up India`s defensive capacities,” the source added.
According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute’s (SIPRI) arms transfers database, Russia was to supply 45 MiG-29K/KUB fighter jets (including 8 MiG-29KUB twin-seat operational trainers) to India.
The first batch of 15 aircraft (including 4 MiG-29KUBs) was delivered to New Delhi in 2010-2011. The deliveries of the remaining 29 fighters (including 4 MiG-29KUBs) started in 2012. As of late 2015, 38 MiG-29K/KUB planes were supplied to the customer.
The Vikramaditya aircraft carrier worth USD2.3 billion was delivered to India in 2013.
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Quickie
Colonel
The catapult help to accelerate the aircraft to higher take-off speed such that the canards may not offer that much of advantage anymore than say without the catapult but on the whole the J-15 should still fare better with the canards especially during the high AOA and slow speed landing.
btw, there are threads in world forum for this. Please post it there in future. If you post it here, please write constructive stuff about J-15 in the same entry.
J-11B has been tested on skiramp and truns out has minor disadvantage compared to J-15. So canards is never a necessary.
I thought that requires movable canards?
Agree, it is better to develop your own domestic fighter than to be dependent on foreign. And when you buy foreign, you buy it in original developed version and a license to produce them and from experiences you develop your own one. But when we talk about India, it is quite clear that problem is not with fighters, but with India. Interesting is, that only India have problems with Su-30 and MiG-29, while other customers don't. Problem is, that India take original equipment out if a jet and replace it with a mix of foreign components and than it doesn't work properly and India is complaining, how bad are Russian fighters. If we look at Rafale saga with India, it is quite clear problem is in India. France doesn't want, tat India destroy French reputation, so they increase price for Rafale for Indian experiments with replacing French components with foreign (Israeli) components and also they doesn't want to give guaranty on Indian Rafales. This show well, that Indian stupidity spoil their own jets and than they are destroying reputation of their business partners.
Quickie
Colonel
Canards on the J-15 are movable.
Why is there a picture of a J15 prototype in that article about Indian Mig29 and it's carrier aviation. Does the author of the article know the difference.
Uh, how did I miss that. Can they preform differential action?