J-10 Thread IV

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    Since the J-10 Thread III has over 500 pages, it's time to start a new J-10 IV Thread.

    I will start by referring to the Popular Science Article ont he J-10B, and then posting some pictures of the J-10B


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    China's J-10B Vigorous Dragon full set is soon to be a full regiment


    J-10B-01.jpg

    For novices, how to tell the difference between a J-10A and a J-10B?

    1. Look at the air intake. The front of the "A" intake is separated from the fuselage. The "B: is faired into the fuselage and represents a DVI intake..

    2. Look at the nose in front of the cockpit. The "B" has an IRST sensor. The ""A" does not.

    3. Look at the tail (vertical stabilizer). The "B" has a segment that is higher than the "A".

    4. Not as visible to the untrained eye, but the "B" has a new AESA radar. The nose cone for the Chinese aircraft usually differs in color for different radars.

    There are other differences, but those first three (particular the first two) make it wasy to tell them apart

    Here are some more pics. I particularly like the 1st one because it shpws 14 J-10Bs parked together...making it apparent IMHP that this aircraft is operational with the PLAAF.


    J-10B-02.jpg
    J-10B aircraft at PLAAF Air Field

    J-10B-03.jpg
    J-10A versus J-10B Differences

    J-10B-04.jpg
    J-10B Taxiing

    J-10B-08.jpg
    CG image of a J-10BS, tandem seat
     
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    Jeff, looking at the air intake, as well as other points, I would call this a J-10AS.
     
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    A notional twin-seater J-10B with CFT would be quite useful, though.

    But again, in the realm of imagination, a twin-engine J-10B would be quite the sidekick.
     
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    It seems J-10B no longer has pitot tube? like J-20 prototype since 2012 ... anybody can confirm this?
     
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    I think it's the angle of certain pictures hides the pitot tube that's all.
     
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    You are absolutely correct...wrong pic on my part. I will update and fix that. Thanks!
     
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    Delft...there. I replaced the J-10AS I mistakenly put in there with a J-10BS. This one:


    J-10B-08.jpg
     
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    J-10B fighters sure look the part, but how they'd perform in actual combat is anyone's guess. Great looking machines, to be sure.
     
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    Yes they do.

    But...hehehe...I believe that pic of the J-10BS I have is itself a PS'ed J-10AS. Look at the nose. Wrong color for the AESA radar. And no IRST. And the vertical stabilizer is wrong.

    Sure looks like a PS'ed J-10AS with a J-10B intake.
     
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    The DVI on the J-10B reminds me a little of the DVI my father developed for the F-8U3 in the late fifties at Vought.

    That aircraft (F-8U3) competed against the F-4 for the Navy's air dominance fighter in the late 1950s. It execeeded the F-4 in top speed, altitude, manueverability, etc. But it lost the competition because it was single seat, and because the F-4 was an all missile aircraft at the time.

    Later, when in combat in Vietnam, they had to add a gun capability to the F-4.

    Five F-8U3s were built. A couple ended up with NASA and those aircraft would regularly engage US NAvy F-4s in mock combat over Florida...and beat them handily.

    Ultimately the Navy asked NASA to tell its test pilots to stop challenging them! LOL!

    Anyhow, take a look at the DVIs:

    J10-BS-DVI.jpg
    J-10B DVI

    F8U-3-DVI.jpg
    F-8U3 DVI
     
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