Israeli Military Says Missile Struck Warship Instead of Drone

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
One of many stories coming from that incident. But then there's always been this cloud of secrecy regarding this incident. Most likely something in the middle happened but it seems clear no definite assessment on the damage has ever been released so one has to wonder why.
 

Jeff Head

General
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One of many stories coming from that incident. But then there's always been this cloud of secrecy regarding this incident. Most likely something in the middle happened but it seems clear no definite assessment on the damage has ever been released so one has to wonder why.
One of the best reports on the official investigation can be found:

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From that report:

Haaretz:IDF probe faults navy said:
The missile that struck the Spear as it cruised off the Lebanese coast was a C-802, an Iranian version of a Chinese surface-to-sea missile. Hezbollah guerrillas fired the missile at 8:42 P.M. on July 14, the third day of the fighting in Lebanon. The missile hit a crane in the rear of the ship and caused the deaths of four soldiers.

The main failure identified by the investigation was the navy's lack of appreciation of the possibility that such a missile could target the ship, despite Military Intelligence warnings.

Two months ago, Haaretz reported that the missile threat had been raised informally in a lecture delivered by Colonel K. of MI to navy officers in April 2003. According to the lecture, the possibility existed that Iran had delivered such missiles to Hezbollah.

Colonel K. also sent a letter to that effect to the head of naval intelligence.

Ben-Basat acknowledged that the navy did not reach any conclusions on the matter and consequently did not prepare for such an eventuality.

"From our point of view, the possibility that such a missile was in the Hezbollah [arsenal] was considered imaginary and exaggerated," the navy commander admitted. "This is a missile 6.4 meters long that weighs 715 kilograms and is launched from a truck. It's a monster. We did not think that a terror organization would have such a thing. At that stage, that is how we viewed Hezbollah. We had not yet come to regard it as a forward Iranian division, the way we now see it in the IDF."

The investigation has also revealed serious problems on the ship itself, particularly the fact that three of its four defense systems were not functioning. The ship's captain was not aware that the defense systems were down.

An electronics officer with the rank of captain had placed both the electronic countermeasures system and the Barak anti-missile system on two-minute standby mode, arguing that he wanted to avoid their "fatigue," as he knew that the Spear was on a mission of long duration. The same officer had identified a problem with the ship's radar, which was functioning at only 50 percent capacity.

In both cases, he failed to inform the ship's captain of the problems.

One of the best summaries I have read of it all of it all reads as follows:

On July 14, 2006, while enforcing a blockade off Beirut, the INS Hanit was attacked by Hezbollah, using an Iranian version of the Chinese YJ-82 missile. A large explosion caused the landing pad to cave in and be engulfed in flames that threatened the aviation fuel storage below, and the flames were not fully extinguished until several hours later. The ship suffered critical damage near the helicopter landing pad and was on fire for several hours and temporarily lost its ability to steer. Four IDF personnel were killed, three of whom were found later in the ship.

An investigation into the incident by the Israeli Navy concluded that the missile was indeed a C-802 which hit a crane in the rear of the ship, that the ship's radar was not fully functional at the time, that both the ECM and the Barak anti-missile systems were in a two-minute stand-by mode and that the ship's captain was not aware of that fact.


Based on that earlier link and on the following report:

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Pointblank

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Sounds like the crew forgot to protect the ship. The primary job of the crew and the commander is to protect the ship, regardless of the situation.
 

Jeff Head

General
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Sounds like the crew forgot to protect the ship. The primary job of the crew and the commander is to protect the ship, regardless of the situation.
Agreed. In that war zone, there should not have been these lapses. The following is quite damning IMHO.

"In electronics officer with the rank of captain had placed both the electronic countermeasures system and the Barak anti-missile system on two-minute standby mode, arguing that he wanted to avoid their "fatigue," as he knew that the Spear was on a mission of long duration. The same officer had identified a problem with the ship's radar, which was functioning at only 50 percent capacity.

In both cases, he failed to inform the ship's captain of the problems."
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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The first member that can find a real picture of the damaged IDFN ship I will give you...:confused: I don't know. But a picture of the damage would be appreciated:)

This war occuried a year ago and still no picture...makes me wonder why
 

Pointblank

Senior Member
The first member that can find a real picture of the damaged IDFN ship I will give you...:confused: I don't know. But a picture of the damage would be appreciated:)

This war occuried a year ago and still no picture...makes me wonder why

The fact that the ship was placed back into service and was able to return to base on her own so quickly indicates what damage it received was primarily superficial, and no major structural damage was received.
 

bd popeye

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The fact that the ship was placed back into service and was able to return to base on her own so quickly indicates what damage it received was primarily superficial, and no major structural damage was received.

I'm not arguing with you Pointblank. However>>>> We've seen no pictures of the damaged ship. Or any photographic evidence that the ship was repaired. but>>>I'm sure it was repaired.

As for the electronics officer placing the sensors in the standby position..That is poor leadership. The Israelis KNOW Hezbollah have this sort of weapon and are more than willing to use it. That captian certianly should be relieved of his duties. So should the captian of that ship because he was not fully aware of the operational capablities of his ship..
 

SteelBird

Colonel
As for the electronics officer placing the sensors in the standby position..That is poor leadership. The Israelis KNOW Hezbollah have this sort of weapon and are more than willing to use it. That captian certianly should be relieved of his duties. So should the captian of that ship because he was not fully aware of the operational capablities of his ship..

So, base on this, can we conclude that the Isreali Naval Personnels are poorly trained?
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
I don't think so. This particular made a severe error in judgement.
Bad error in judgement based on faulty andmisinterpreted naval G2...as well as underestimating their enemy. As you say, the officers who were negligent and derelect (IMHO) should have been relieved.

I have scoured the web for pics of the damage popeye...and here's what I found.

The IDF put out an official video of the INS Hanit, the Sa'ar 5 that was hit, returning to port under its own power. Here's a link to that video:

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Many people felt that this video was propoganda. I downloaded the video and have gone through it frame by frame. At seconds 35, 36, and 37, there are three seconds of the aft of the ship. Here's the pic from that video at 36 seconds.

INS SAAR 5 hit-1.jpg


Notice the hangar. It looks like it has been severely damaged and gutted out from the aft end to me.

On a forum site in Israel, I found a similar picture of the aft end of the vessel from just a little different angle. It too is supposed to be from another video. The resolution is also not that good. But look at the hangar and you can see that the hangar area has been severly damaged, looks gutted.

INS SAAR 5 hit-2.jpg


These are the only two photos I have seen. Again, they are from a couple of days later as the vessel is making its way back to port for repairs. The first is from the official IDF video of the Hanit returning to port.
 
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