Israel attacks Gaza Strip

Baibar of Jalat

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Hezbollah claims to have sunk an Israeli patrol craft, this link has a photo of a burning boat, which is claimed to be the destroyed vessel.

"At 2:05 pm (1105 GMT) Friday, while an Israeli Super Dvora warship was off the coast of Mansouri, south of the city of Tyre, and was aggressing our steadfast people and our civilian regions, the men of the Islamic Resistance attacked the ship with suitable weapons," a Hezbollah statement said.

"They scored a direct hit, destroying it, setting off a fire on it and sinking it," said the statement, read on Hezbollah's Al-Manar television.

"Other Israeli boats and zodiacs rushed to rescue its crew, made up of 12 officers and soldiers and who were killed, wounded or drowned," it said.

An Israeli military spokeswoman intially said she knew nothing about a boat being hit.

When pressed, and asked if that were a denial of Hezbollah's claim, she said "yes."

Lebanese television channel LBC International broadcast pictures showing thick clouds of smoke rising above the waters off Tyre, claiming the images showed the aftermath of the ship's sinking.

Friday's claim was Hezbollah's third since the start of Israel's massive military offensive on Lebanon after the Shiite guerrilla militant group killed eight soldiers and captured another two on July 12.

Israel denied Hezbollah's claim on July 31 that a warship had been hit.

On July 14, just two days after Israel launched its offensive, Hezbollah fired a rocket into a warship off Beirut, killing four Israeli sailors.

Naval experts have said the ship's sailors had failed to turn on its interference systems to stop the rockets honing in on the target, believing it was out of range

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Look at this distant picture of a burning tank.0

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crazyinsane105

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Apparently the Israelis have reached the Litani River, which is 18 miles away from the border. Nearly 50 helicopters ferried commandos to the river, the biggest operation in Israel's history. Thing is, exactly how far of the river length do the Israelis control?
 

DPRKUnderground

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crazyinsane105 said:
Apparently the Israelis have reached the Litani River, which is 18 miles away from the border. Nearly 50 helicopters ferried commandos to the river, the biggest operation in Israel's history. Thing is, exactly how far of the river length do the Israelis control?

Well they haven't won just yet. Remember that many Hizballah fighters will be on the other side. They have to take on a massive Hizballah counterattack before declaring victory. And it seems that Hizballah has shot down an IDF chopper.

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coolieno99

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The following passage was taken from the New York Times. It revealed some of the tactics used by the Hezbollah guerillas.

...There are dozens of wounded soldiers here in northern Israel’s main hospital, and all seem to have stories of unexpectedly fierce ground battles with Hezbollah. They describe Hezbollah as heavily armed, well organized and maddeningly elusive. The fighters, well concealed in bunkers and tunnels, emerge to fire automatic rifles, rocket-propelled grenades and antitank rockets, they say, and then quickly disappear again. In Israel’s 1982 invasion of Lebanon — which led to the birth of Hezbollah — Israeli troops stormed north and reached the outskirts of the capital, Beirut, within two weeks. The goal this time is limited to driving Hezbollah out of rocket range, yet it has proven far more difficult. After a month of fighting, some 10,000 Israeli soldiers are still waging daily firefights in towns and villages that are five miles or less from the border. In fact, the fighting has sometimes been visible from the Israeli side of the frontier. Of the more than 80 Israeli soldiers killed in the fighting, 45 have died in the past week as the ground campaign has intensified. Now that the Israeli government has approved an expanded offensive, the recovering soldiers say they remain confident Israel can drive Hezbollah back from the border, but acknowledge it will involve tough fighting that could last weeks, in contrast to the swift and decisive victory many of them expected when the fighting began. Capt. Hanoch Daub, 26, explained the difficulties of fighting an enemy who lives among the civilian population and dresses like them. On Tuesday, Captain Daub, a company commander in the tank corps, faced a nightmarish mission. Two Israeli soldiers were badly wounded and had taken cover in a house in a valley in the center of Bint Jbail, a Hezbollah stronghold that has been the scene of heavy fighting for more than two weeks. The wounded needed to be moved out urgently. Captain Daub guided his tank into the town center in broad daylight, knowing in advance that his tank would be fully exposed to a furious Hezbollah assault.
“We were under constant fire,” Captain Daub said. “They never stopped hitting us.” The tank reached the two wounded soldiers and delivered them to safety. But as Captain Daub tried to rejoin his company on the outskirts of town, his tank was blasted again, and his face, neck and leg were peppered with shrapnel. “Hezbollah is everywhere, but they are very hard to find,” he said. “They work in small units or two or three men. They wear civilian clothes. You don’t see them. You just see their fire.” ...

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Shahid

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crazyinsane105 said:
Apparently the Israelis have reached the Litani River, which is 18 miles away from the border. Nearly 50 helicopters ferried commandos to the river, the biggest operation in Israel's history. Thing is, exactly how far of the river length do the Israelis control?

Well if they manage to establish and hold a strong bridge-head, maybe IDF will finally score a successfull ground operation. But most probably this will end by an IDF withdrawal as armored reinforcements will not make it that far in lebanese ground under Hizbs constant fire.
 

The_Zergling

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Hmm... something important to note is that Hizbollah doesn't exactly fit the criteria for a guerilla army. It's a mix of both 2nd and 4th generation warfare tactics...

They are (oddly enough) taking and defending villages instead of staying completely mobile, which will result in heavier losses against overwhelming Israeli firepower. It's hard to say whether or not they will continue this seemingly conventional warfare tactic or give ground to avoid being decimated.

Although in actuality as long as they can keep fighting, Guerillas can't really lose.
 

DPRKUnderground

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The_Zergling said:
Hmm... something important to note is that Hizbollah doesn't exactly fit the criteria for a guerilla army. It's a mix of both 2nd and 4th generation warfare tactics...

They are (oddly enough) taking and defending villages instead of staying completely mobile, which will result in heavier losses against overwhelming Israeli firepower. It's hard to say whether or not they will continue this seemingly conventional warfare tactic or give ground to avoid being decimated.

Although in actuality as long as they can keep fighting, Guerillas can't really lose.

The Mujahedin used the same tactics in Afghanistan. Defend the village. Then let most of you forces retreat and lay down a thick blanket of cover fire, then go back to your stronghold. Look at where Hizballah was defending. Bint Jbail. That's like a base for Hizballah.
 
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