Israel attacks Gaza Strip

crazyinsane105

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I had recently read a Janes report stating that Iran was going to ship large amounts of SAM's to Hezbullah since the conflict began. That may indicate that Hezbullah probably didn't have a decent SAM capability before.
 

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Finn McCool said:
Thank you very much for that Shahid. Your arabic skills might come in handy in the future too. I can only hope that the Israeli government doesn't make the same mistake and thus propels the reigon to war.

I doubt that the Syrians are actually going to fight Israel. This statement, along with the mobilization of the reservists, is simply Syria trying to act strong, and keep the war in Lebanon and out of Syria. The critical time was when this war was just beginning, and Syria and Iran were both threatening Israel. Israel called their bluff and they backed down. If they didn't act then and openly enter the war, they certainly won't now.

Personally, I think that Hezbollah does have at least some MANPADS. Maybe they were never properly trained in their use, or the Israelis have been able to avoid them, or Hezbollah is trying to lull the Israelis into a false sense of security. But I agree with Isthvan; if they got their hands on the C-802, they probably have MANPADS.


Shahid what exact words did he use. Please give us the arabic transliteration.

Finn here's the words of Shaykh Nasrallah

I mean a disaster for their tanks, officers, and soldiers. There will be a high price for them to pay. Right from the first day, I never claimed, even during negotiations and in my past speeches, that I can shoot down F-16's. We have never claimed that. We did not claim such a thing even during the [confrontation] in the sea, but we managed to surprise them in the sea.

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I was referring to the media reporting the Syrian foreign minister saying that they would welcome a reigonal war. Apparently it was a bad translation, and he really said something along the lines of "we would step to it", meaning that Syria would not try to avoid the fight. That's just what Shahid said.

About the F-16 thing-Nasrallah is probably trying to avoid having expectations set too high for Hezbollah. He's right that there is apparently nothing that either the Lebanese Army or Hezbollah can do about Israeli air strikes. Obviously, it would be misguided to expect that either of them could ever challenge the IAF, but they aren't even providing any sort of a threat or anything.
 

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IDF shoot down UAV near Haifa

Last update - 20:02 07/08/2006IDF shoots down Hezbollah drone over sea near Haifa coastBy Amos Harel,
Haaretz Correspondent, and AP

IDF brought down an unmanned drone over the Mediterranean Sea on Monday night, near the coast of the northern city of Haifa. It is not clear whether it had explosives onboard.

In the past year, Hezbollah has twice managed to fly a drone into Israeli airspace, both of which returned safely to Lebanese territory.

"I can confirm that the airforce destroyed a Hezbollah drone," an army spokesman said, but would not provide any other details, including where the drone was flying.


Channel One television reported that the drone was believed to be armed, but the army had no comment.

In November 2004, Hezbollah sent its first ever drone, named "Mirsad 1" over Israel, where it flew around for some 20 minutes while filming.

Despite broadcasting a short segment of the film taken by the unmanned vehicle, Hezbollah gave away few details on it and it was unclear if it was a homemade, makeshift aircraft or bought from abroad.

Israel makes frequent use of drones over the battlefield to give it real time intelligence during fighting.
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Video of UAV downing... I’m not quite sure if this is real footage so any comments would be welcome...

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crazyinsane105

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Hmm....maybe the drone was conducting a recon mission or testing out Israel's air defense system? There hasn't been any reports of it carrying explosives so we'll have to assume that it was a recon mission.
 

coolieno99

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This probably explains why the Israeli offensive drive has been slow and cautious. Keep in mind that the Merkava tank is one of the largest and most modern tank in the world:

"The Russian-made Cornet anti-tank rockets are destroying the Israeli Merkava tanks at a rate of one a day."

Source: SF Chronicle Aug. 7, 2006
 

DPRKUnderground

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coolieno99 said:
This probably explains why the Israeli offensive drive has been slow and cautious. Keep in mind that the Merkava tank is one of the largest and most modern tank in the world:

It's amazing to see that the old Kornet can really damage advanced tanks like the Merkava. How much armor can the Kornet penetrate?
 

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The above video shows the damage a Kornet can inflict upon a modern ERA equipped tank. Unfortunately the video is in Russian, but it does give a very good demonstration. Right click and save to your computer.
 

Shahid

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coolieno99 said:
This probably explains why the Israeli offensive drive has been slow and cautious. Keep in mind that the Merkava tank is one of the largest and most modern tank in the world:

And that it costs 5 millions $ a piece.

Does anybody have the exact count of casualties and armours lost on both sides up to day?

By the way, if i am not mistaken the Mirsad is a recon drone developped by the iranian army, but i will double check this.
 

Shahid

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Finn McCool said:
About the F-16 thing-Nasrallah is probably trying to avoid having expectations set too high for Hezbollah. He's right that there is apparently nothing that either the Lebanese Army or Hezbollah can do about Israeli air strikes. Obviously, it would be misguided to expect that either of them could ever challenge the IAF, but they aren't even providing any sort of a threat or anything.


The IRNN announced that the Hezbollah air defense downed at least one IDF plane, but with no precision of what kind of plane it was. The video footage was not really clear.

Checking done.

The Mirsad 1 is actually the iranian 'Mohadjer 4' recon drone developped by the Pasdaran ( The Guardians of the Revolution).

The Mohadjer spelling is the right one, not Mehger or Medger, as it is in many info sites.

The Mohadjer line drones were developped during the Iran-Iraq war by iranian amateur plane modelists and while originally a recon drone, it can be fitted with unguided rockets.
 
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