ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

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    Of course they have the "evidence", when last time Syria handed over their stockpile, I am sure the French was keen to keep a good amount of samples, as well as other western countries involved in the handling. They will have enough "evidence" for the next many decades to come. Just go to their storage and take a small bottle of Syrian sarin, we will see this all over again.

    Collin Power really taught the world a good lesson some years ago although nobody knows what exactly was in that bottle he held in front of UNSC, washing detergent perhaps? On this count the French can do a much better job as they really have Syrian Sarin in their house.:rolleyes:
     
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    The BBC said this morning that USAF attacked a militia that threatened its militia force in Eastern Syria, but Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung writes that the attack was against the Syrian army and a militia, that the attack took place to the North West of Tanf. To the North the Syrian army is trying to make its way to Deir-Ezzor and it was recently attacked by IS in that area so presumably the Syrian army was acting to drive away or if possible destroy the IS units concerned. FAZ also said that US doesn't want the Syrian army to act in the Easter part of Syria to the intention might have been to frustrate the campaign in the direction of Deir-Ezzor.
    Question: Was this decided in Washington or was it an action by the US Middle Eastern command taken independently because of the chaos in Washington.
     
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    I just read Robert Fisk's article in The Independent:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...raq-border-training-camp-rebels-a7744091.html
     
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    Just as you thought the tangled web of Syria could not get even stranger.

    The US has just just launched its new proxy FSA along the Southern Border of Syria and they have attempted to link up with existing pockets of the FSA East of Damascus and also to expand into the ISIS vacuum left along the Syrian - Jordanian/Iraqi borders.

    The results seems to be a three way fight between the SAA and allies, the FSA and ISIS in all the key locations, with the SAA seeming to have the upper hand in the East Damascus countryside and the FSA having the advantage along the border.
    The fact that the US wants to have this new proxy link with enclaves around the Capital and; for the first time have an active supply linkfrom Jordan to Damascus. suggests that regime change is still number one objective for the Pentagon.

    To understand this, just put it into perspective with the other forces.
    The US main proxy are the Kurdish SPF/YPG. These forces; although proving very effective against ISIS, have no interest or intent to try and conquer Syria and effect regime change.
    Further, the other nominally US backed FSA group based in Idlib and North Aleppo seem to have stronger ties to Turkey (and by presumed extension to the Muslim Brotherhood). Turkey however is primarily concerned with fighting the Kurds and preventing a continous Kurdish political entity across its Southern border (although this is largely a fact now with only a short gap in North Aleppo seperating a large Kurdish territory stretching from Iraq and the Afrin Canton.

    This split along opposing objectives in the North of Syria, could well be a factor that enabled the Syrian Government to recapture all of Aleppo city last year, in such a relatively fast time.

    The question is therefore, are the large parts of the FSA in Idlib and Northern Aleppo, really Turkish proxies, following the Turkish agenda, or are they simply biding their time until a better offer comes along?
    Or to put it another way, is the US betting that a Regime Change Assault from the Southern Border, aimed at the Capital would be more successful and lack the internal divisions experienced in the North?
    This means that if this new FSA force manged to link into the East Damascus enclaves, to include the East Ghouta, would large numbers of FSA forces in the North relocate South to better prosecute a decapitation mission?
     
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    Time to declare a no fly zone over Damascus province?
     
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    A no fly zone already exists as part of the deescalation zones agreement, but it's just not called that.

    The recent actions in the southern Syrian countryside is blatant aggression against the government, and as such, should deserve the full attention of the SAA and the Russian air force. If the FSA is allowed to succeed in rural Damascus, all the gains in Aleppo, Homs and Hama would mean little.

    Time and time again it's the FSA that prove themselves to the be real enemies of the Syrian government, not ISIS.
     
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    :D the guy funny ... it is ofc easy to have infos :rolleyes: before mentionned they have received Mig-29M2
    do not mix up SM and SMT a new
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    The latest situation in Syria.

    https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/25may_15_25_syria_war_map-1.jpg?x87206


    Government has made big advances in the south, east of Damascus against the combinations of FSA and ISIS. Securing its' own border with Jordan is the immediate goal it seems, whereas the medium term goal would be to secure the border with Iraq. There are numerous rumours the Iraqi PMUs are helping with this.
    With the recent US airstrike on the SAA and its allied militias near the Jordanian border, it'll be interesting to see how far the US and its FSA are willing to take the fight to the SAA because they are clearly outnumbered against the majority of the SAA in the Eastern Damascus desert. My prediction is that Al-Tanaf will be captured in the following couple weeks.

    The Tiger forces are also making good progress against ISIS in Eastern Aleppo, but with all the attention on the Eastern Damascus, this has become a battle of secondary importance. Nonetheless, ISIS should be expelled from Maskanah and Aleppo province in the near future.

    What's really interesting will be the upcoming tussle over Deir Ezzor between the government, SDF and FSA. This is the primary reason why I think the government is putting so much resources into the battles on its Jordanian and Iraqi borders; that they cannot afford the FSA or the SDF to take control of this importance city which is coincidently located near oil and gas fields.
     
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    So much for operation winning hearts and minds.o_O

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-step-air-strikes-apos-124301645.html
     
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