ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

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  1. Air Force Brat
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    Thank you Master Jura, for once again shedding light on the truth, and shame on BHO, Kerry, and Hillary for continuing to "cover up" the whole truth of their failed Mid East policy.
     
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    On SD we are NOT going to give platform to wild conspiracy theories.

    Single sourced, un-named contacts. US general's at the very top level going behind their CINC to provide intel to Assad via Russia.

    The US through Obama supporting ISIS, along with Turkey and Saudi Arabia, even while the US bombs ISIS and the others officially denounce them...and all of the supposed "support" through cutouts of course.

    Look, it is pretty obvious that I personally am no fan of Obama's, but I am not going to go in for this stuff, or allow SD to be dragged into the wild eyed conspiracy land.

    Sorry, unless and until there is solid evidence of these conspiracy theories from multiple named sources and credible major outlets, we simply are not going to run with them here. Take them some where else.

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    It seems like the "rules of engagement" for fighting ISIS or whichever group the Russians are fight does not include avoid any and all possibilities of killing or injuring civilians. the Russians seems to be sending civilians living with the rebels and ISIS a message that If you are near where the "enemy" is located, and if you are providing them food with your "bakeries" and providing them shelter you will be killed along with the enemy.

    In my humble opinion this is one reason the west can not and will not ever succeed in any asymmetrical warfare now or in the near future -- be careful not to cause any colorectal damage no matter how much damage it may cause to the enemy. It may seems harsh but I think the enemy, not the Geneva Convention, should determine any and all "rules of engagement" in a war.
    The enemy started the war and they should be allowed to laid down the "rules of engagement" as to how they wanted it fought.
     
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    colorectal????

    dude, i am on the floor
    howling, right now!

    but, you're correct; you can't win unless you can kick that azz!
     
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    There are rules and mode of behaviour expected in an armed conflict. It is not a variable standard subject to who the enemy is even if your adversaries happen to be behaving in a barbaric manner like ISIS. The Russians just tend to sail closer to the edge than say the U.S. which is more self restraining when considering collateral damage and likely civilian casualties. There are activists and interest groups out there ever ready to label war crimes at every given opportunity e.g. Kunduz Hospital.
     
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    Ramadi situation, accurate maps !

    I precise the name Anbar yet is the region near of Ramadi but mainly a Iraqi Army Command " Anbar Operational Command " equivalent Army Corps get 1st and 7th Division yet based here in peace time ofc reinforced especialy by SF, other units and Elts of 9th Mech Div with M-1 we have see have also T-72.

    8th ID rattached to Basrah Operational Command
    16th ID destroyed last year to Mosul recreated

    Annouced also in more new BMP-1 delivered, Bulgaria have sold T-72 no sure.

    Irak Ramadi Control Map 2015-12-22 high.jpg

    Irak Ramadi Control Map - Central ramadi 2015-12-22 high.jpg
     
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    Yesterday at 8:28 AM
    ... and while this map is more conservative:
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    here's the link to the animation by "Peto Lucem" of the Southern Aleppo campaign since November 21:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CWw2T1VW4AAHxe1.mp4
     
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    so it's a Corps against

    ?
     
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    Per the rest of that article the heavy presence is to hold territory, either to deter an IS counter attack or fight one off if it happens nonetheless.
     
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