ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

Have you heard of the Russian Air Force attack(s) on moving targets? (I haven't yet) ...
... I realized this's been answered, in a way, by the Russian Colonel General who recently reported about the results of the first month of air-strikes; no moving target is mentioned among 1623 targets he said were destroyed, by 1391 sorties flown:
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Jeff Head

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I just deleted a bunch of Op-Eds, off topic discussions, prognostications, rhetoric, etc. about these events.

Keep On Topic about the specific ISIS Crisis issues as the relate to the Military and Defense. Do not bring your personal rhetoric or political/ideology de jour into it.

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SampanViking

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(to end/keep the siege of the Kuweiris airbase) seems to be still ongoing (SampanViking: isn't it too long?), while

probably hasn't succeeded, as
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says :)

My Russian sources switched from so called piece talks to the downed airliner ... no map today

As you say, with so little hard information its impossible to make even a serious comment.
My gut tells me, that ISIS have indeed launched a desperate Do or Die offensive on several fronts and this is likely to make for a very amorphous front.
I suspect ISIS are throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the SAA and will be taking casualties by the lorry load for their efforts.

It is being indicated that Russian strategy remains to target strategic targets rather than tactical and I can see the sense in that. Why waste a sortie that could deny ammunition or fuel or command to hundreds or thousands of militants, just to blow up a few Toyotas?
Besides, the targets being discussed seem to be those for the fixed wing aircraft, which means that the Helicopters could be being used to provide CAS to the SAA.
The SAA does of course have an Airforce of its own, more than capable of attacking the moving/open air targets.
 

plawolf

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[QUOTE="SampanViking, post: 372421It is being indicated that Russian strategy remains to target strategic targets rather than tactical and I can see the sense in that.[/QUOTE]

Even the Su25s?

Seems odd to bring dedicated CAS birds and not do any CAS with them. Might as well have sent more Flankers, Fencers or Hellducks (I know its not the official code name, but I just love it too much not to use it :p) instead if that was the case?
 

janjak desalin

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The most recent reports i've read indicate that southwestern Aleppo is presently the most dynamic battle-zone.

The consensus amongst cartographers is that the FSA coalition still controls critical, strategic, stretches of both the main highway, (M5/Damascus to Aleppo), and the secondary, Hama to Aleppo, route. Consequently, the Aleppo offensive (north and south) is supplied, solely, by a route that connects highways from the coast to Hama, to highway 42, (Homs to Raqqa), to a road from Ithriyah that connects the to the Khanaser highway network that serves southwestern Aleppo. This, circuitous route, most likely, is a primary contributor to the slow pace of action by the regime coalition in its Aleppo offensive. It is also the basis of my anticipation that, soon, in the next strategic phase, the region in which the Aleppo-Hama-Idlib Governorates' borders meet will be the center of offensive action for regime coalition forces.
My logic is that, as the critical, strategic, stretch of main highway, (M5), is centered in Idlib Governorate, itself the center of FSA coalition forces concentration and access to international commerce (read Turkey), and is, therefore, most heavily defended, the battle for this objective would best be initiated subsequent to the concentration of as great a force as is possible. Conversely, the critical, strategic, stretches of the Hama to Aleppo highway network that FSA coalition forces control are at the eastern boundary of their territory, in the region in which the Aleppo-Hama-Idlib Governorates' borders meet. They are defended well only from the west, are vulnerable to the north, south and east, and are under attack, presently, from the north and east. Consequently, a strategy focused on regaining full control of the Hama to Aleppo highway network is the most viable option for maximizing efficiency (speed/fuel efficiency/bulk) in supplying operations with the objectives of either taking or investing Aleppo city and regaining control of the Aleppo Governorate.
Ultimately, all I'm describing is a single envelopment at the strategic level, a strategic flanking. As FSA is both centered, and concentrated heavily, on highway M5 and is significantly less concentrated on the peripheral Hama to Aleppo, highway network, why not by-pass the more difficult work 'til the less difficult is done.
I'm too lazy for mapping, right now; maybe later.
 
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janjak desalin

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This was being posted as I was writing the above post:
Syrian Army and Hezbollah Capture Over 210km of Territory in Southern Aleppo
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on November 3, 2015
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"In a span of thirty days, the Syrian Arab Army’s 4th Mechanized Division – in coordination with Hezbollah, the National Defense Forces (NDF), and Iraqi Paramilitary units – have captured over 210km of territory from the Islamist rebels of Harakat Nouriddeen Al-Zinki, Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham, Liwaa Suqour Al-Sham, and the Syrian Al-Qaeda group “Jabhat Al-Nusra”, while also advancing in the direction of the strategic Aleppo-Damasacus International Highway that runs through most of Syria’s densely populated provinces.

What began as a surprise, the Syrian Armed Forces’ assault on southern Aleppo has turned into Syrian government’s most effective offensive since the first Qalamoun battle that reopened the Homs-Damascus Highway and secured most of Lebanon’s eastern border with Syria.

Perhaps the most impressive aspect of this large-scale offensive in southern Aleppo is the overall effectiveness of the military advisors from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC); these aforementioned field marshals have replaced the Syrian Arab Army’s senior officers after a lackluster performance that saw the pro-government forces on the defensive for the last eight months.

However, it is not just the leadership that has led to the Syrian Arab Army’s success in southern Aleppo; it is also the large presence of Russian aircraft striking the Islamist rebels and the recent deployment of Hezbollah to this province after a successful offensive at the resort-city of Al-Zabadani in rural Damascus.

The culmination of events that have taken place during this offensive, coalesced with the Syrian Arab Army’s methodical and meticulous assault has revitalized the once battered force that appeared on the brink of collapse at several fronts in northern Syria."


Also:
Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:56
URGENT: Final March Starts on Kuweires Airbase in Aleppo

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TEHRAN (FNA)- Thousands of soldiers from the Syrian army, Hezbollah and popular forces, backed up by Russian air force, launched the final phase of a landmark operation towards a strategic airbase Southeast of Aleppo that has been under siege for two years now.

The Syrian army, National Defense Forces (NDF) and Hezbollah fighters backed up by Russian warplanes started the operation early Tuesday morning and have already come almost half a mile closer to the Kuweires airport in a region where advance in every inch has taken days.

The pro-government forces marched on ISIL positions in the region and advanced to the rural district of Sheikh Ahmad after taking full control of the railway crossing. Early reports from the battlefield said tens of Takfiri terrorists have been killed this morning.

The Syrian army and Hezbollah forces are now deployed in a region only 2 kilomteres away from the airbase.

According to the source, the pro-government forces are preparing to mop up the rest of Sheikh Ahmad to prepare for a massive offensive on ISIL positions along the Aleppo-Raqqa Highway. Some 80 percent of Sheikh Ahmad - that is seen as a milestone in the Damascus war on terrorist groups in the Northern province of Aleppo - is now under the control of the pro-government forces.

Army sources said the Russian strikers play a very crucial role in the operation.

Commanders of the Syrian Army, popular forces, Hezbollah and Russian Air Force held a meeting in Sheikh Ahmad frontline on Monday to coordinate the last phase of their joint operation for removing the two-year-long ISIL siege on Kuweires airbase, Southeast of Aleppo.

Military sources said last night that the pro-government forces were deployed in most parts of Sheikh Ahmad, just 2,600 meters far farm the Southern gates of the strategic Kuweires airbase.

On Sunday, the pro-government forces won a series of tough clashes with militant groups in the Southern part of Sheikh Ahmad and came closer than 3 kilometers to the strategic Kuweires Airbase.

The joint operations of the Syrian army troops, Hezbollah fighters and NDF that have been underway with the Russian air backup for the last one month have forced the militant groups, specially the ISIL, to withdraw from the Southern parts of Sheikh Ahmad town near the Kuweires airbase.

The sources said that the militant groups have suffered heavy casualties in the latest stage of the pro-government troops' joint operations Saturday night.

The ISIL Takfiri terrorists have besieged the Kuweires airbase for over 2.5 years now, but the base itself is under the Syrian army's control.

Hundreds of Syrian forces are under a tight siege at the airbase as a result of the occupation of vast areas surrounding the airport by the terrorists.

The Syrian army's helicopters supply foodstuff and other needs to the Syrian troops defending the airport.







 
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(I used the most recent blog of "Cassad" and the discussion below it
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plus other sources; today I noticed a higher number of victorious announcements compared to last week average LOL but this increases the noise, of course)
attempting update of
Oct 24, 2015
... what caught my attention about the current situation, in several points:

1. around Aleppo the Regular Army hasn't been able yet to end the siege of the airbase called Kuweiris Airport ...

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it seems while pushing for Sheik Ahmad ...

... which is the place (a village?) in the middle between the bulge and the airbase ...

... the flanks of Regular Army were again attacked by ISIL, which got into Al Jabul (the place by Jabul Lake) and is taking it toward Aleppo, to cut the road connecting Allepo with
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(which was unsuccessfully attacked recently)
?

(to the south-west from this area
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it appears the Regular Army is relatively successfully pushing toward "M5")

more to the south, but obviously related, the supply-road was cut

south of
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(from what I figured, the road runs just by the desert there)
by coordinated (?) attacks of ISIL and
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and it's critical for the Regular Army to keep it open

here I wonder if it has, or hasn't, been opened since then (or maybe cut elsewhere?)

... it seems to hold

3.
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has not been taken either, and heavy fights are expected, complicated by the terrain ...
... and were not conclusive either
 

janjak desalin

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[QUOTE="delft, post: 372542, member: 6036"][...]
Nothing specific except that the fifty tons dropped by USAF for the US supported "rebels" couldn't even retrieved by them because they are too weak. That task fell to YPK.[/QUOTE]
from the article:
"But 10 days of interviews and front-line visits across northern Syria with many of the forces in the alliance, called the Syrian Democratic Forces, made clear that so far it exists in name only, and that the political and logistical challenges it faces are daunting."

Syrian Democratic Forces? Did I miss the elections?

Syrian Democratic Forces? As if folks will really be fooled by that name?
 

dtulsa

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As just reported on Fox news Russia may be open to Assad not staying in power has this been reported anywhere else also does anyone know if spetznaz is operating in Syria I myself have little doubt that they are
 
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