ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

shen

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Uighur terrorists fighting in Syria. Not just China's problem anymore!

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| September 10th, 2015 | [email protected] | @Weissenberg7
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Two fighters from the Turkistan Islamic Party stand on top of a MIG fighter jet.

The Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP), an al Qaeda-affiliated Uighur jihadist group that operates in Central and South Asia and in Syria, has released several photographs from the Abu Duhour airbase in the northwestern province of Idlib. The airbase had long been under siege before the Al Nusrah Front, al Qaeda’s official branch in the country, and its allies
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that the facility had been captured. The jihadist group Jund al Aqsa,
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, also took part in the operation.

Al Nusrah
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from Abu Duhour on its official Twitter feeds showing captured regime soldiers, MIGs, and helicopters, and several scenes from the actual battle.

The images from TIP also show captured soldiers, aircraft, and other vehicles from the base. At least two photos were published of Abdullah al Muhaysini, a Saudi al Qaeda cleric who is very popular among jihadist groups in Syria. Muhaysini
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at least one training camp for children in Idlib. A final photo shows a fighter who was killed while overrunning the base.

The TIP has been involved in almost all of the major operations that have taken place in Idlib this year. The jihadist group assisted in the capture of the city of Jisr al Shughur, where it launched at least two suicide bombings in support of the operation. It also helped overrun several important towns and villages in the strategic Al Ghab plain with Jund al Aqsa and two Uzbek groups, Katibat al Tawhid wal Jihad, an al Qaeda affiliate, and the Imam Bukhari Jamaat, which has pledged allegiance to Mullah Akhtar Mansour of the Taliban.

[For more information on the TIP’s role in these offensives, see LWJ report,
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, and Threat Matrix reports,
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Caleb Weiss is an intern at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and a contributor to The Long War Journal.
 
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shen said:
Uighur terrorists fighting in Syria. Not just China's problem anymore!

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Two fighters from the Turkistan Islamic Party stand on top of a MIG fighter jet.

The Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP), an al Qaeda-affiliated Uighur jihadist group that operates in Central and South Asia and in Syria, has released several photographs from the Abu Duhour airbase in the northwestern province of Idlib. The airbase had long been under siege before the Al Nusrah Front, al Qaeda’s official branch in the country, and its allies
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that the facility had been captured. The jihadist group Jund al Aqsa,
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, also took part in the operation.

Al Nusrah
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from Abu Duhour on its official Twitter feeds showing captured regime soldiers, MIGs, and helicopters, and several scenes from the actual battle.

The images from TIP also show captured soldiers, aircraft, and other vehicles from the base. At least two photos were published of Abdullah al Muhaysini, a Saudi al Qaeda cleric who is very popular among jihadist groups in Syria. Muhaysini
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at least one training camp for children in Idlib. A final photo shows a fighter who was killed while overrunning the base.

The TIP has been involved in almost all of the major operations that have taken place in Idlib this year. The jihadist group assisted in the capture of the city of Jisr al Shughur, where it launched at least two suicide bombings in support of the operation. It also helped overrun several important towns and villages in the strategic Al Ghab plain with Jund al Aqsa and two Uzbek groups, Katibat al Tawhid wal Jihad, an al Qaeda affiliate, and the Imam Bukhari Jamaat, which has pledged allegiance to Mullah Akhtar Mansour of the Taliban.

[For more information on the TIP’s role in these offensives, see LWJ report,
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, and Threat Matrix reports,
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Caleb Weiss is an intern at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and a contributor to The Long War Journal.
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There is now extremely strong evidence that the recent bombing in Thailand was carried out by Uighur extremists.

Most western reports and governments feign ignorance as to a motive, perhaps as some last ditch desperate attempt to deny the mounting evidence, but the blindingly obvious motive is the 100 or so of Uighur Thailand recently repatriated to China, who wanted them in connection with terrorism offenses.

Looks like the Thai authorities missed a few splinters.

For decades the west has gone out of its way to insist Uighur terrorists are not terrorists, the only rationale I can see is because they are only targeting Chinese. :rolleyes:

The western governments and intelligence agencies of often refused to cooperate with Chinese forces in tracking down and dealing with Uighur terrorists on flimsy "human rights" pretexts at the same time as those very same agencies were busy nabbing people from all over the world and renditioning them to camp x-ray or CIA black sites or even foreign torture centres, which shows how much they actually care about human rights.

Now it seems they have created another monster. Where almost every other radical jihadist terror organisation is actively hunted by western intelligence agencies and forces, Uighur are pretty much given a free pass.

The US even went to great lengths to resettle a load they captured training with the Taliban and Al-Q in Afghanistan, rather than send them back to China, after determining those men where not a threat to America.

I think Beijing should now given serious consideration to launching military operations designed to specifically take out the Uighur fighters western forces tend to leave alone.

To avoid drawing unwanted attention from the main jihadist groups, perhaps this could be done indirectly, through aid and military equipment given to Assad, sending in "advisors", and maybe the establishment of serious "independent" Chinese PMC outfits and sending them to fight in Syria as independent contractors rather than regular Chinese troops.

The goal and rationale would largely be the same as with that for America in fighting in Afghanistan ironically - to keep the terrorists busy and occupied fighting overseas rather than have them infiltrate into China to launch attacks there.

The Syrian war has allowed global Jihadist groups to train up experienced fighters and field commanders to replace all those killed in all the years of fighting against American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If these fighters and commanders are allowed to leave Syria, they could become massive problems by establishing terror cells world wide and launching the commando assault raids becoming ever more common.

It is way past time there was another cull and their ranks depleted.

America is not interested in fighting any more, maybe the Uighur connection and threat would give China a reason to get involved in the fight.

Although given the western reaction to the distinctly standard and very understandable deployments Russia recently made, one can imagine the hysterics if China actually got fully involved in the fight against ISIS.

Somehow I think those demanding China play a bigger role and criticising China for not right now will be singing a very different tune. :rolleyes:
 
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Iranian troops join Russians in Syria fighting
Israeli security sources claim Quds Force sending hundreds of elite troops in unprecedented cooperation with Russia to save embattled Syrian regime.

Yoav Zitun

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and according to the Israeli source, has teamed up with Iran in an unprecedented attempt to protect the embattled regime of Bashar Assad from falling to rebel groups including the Islamic State.
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But if Iranian forces are needed in Syria China might help by contributing transport aircraft.
 
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that's interesting (I put one part in boldface)
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... but was it true??
Pentagon chief demands honest war intelligence
Defense Secretary Ash Carter has reminded the Pentagon's senior intelligence corps that they are expected to give him their unvarnished views, amid allegations that the military command overseeing the war against the Islamic State distorted or altered intelligence assessments to exaggerate progress against the military group, officials said Thursday.

Pentagon press secretary Peter Cook said that after it was publicly disclosed last month that the Pentagon's inspector general was investigating allegations of skewed intelligence reports, Carter directed his top civilian intelligence officer to reinforce the need for honest assessments, including at Central Command, which oversees the war effort.

"Unvarnished, transparent intelligence is what this secretary expects on a daily basis," Cook said.

Publicly, many senior civilian and military officials have said that while the counter-IS fight is difficult and likely to drag on for years, the U.S.-led coalition is making significant progress against the militant group in both Iraq and Syria, where they control large swaths of territory. Others have been more circumspect. For example, Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said while traveling in Europe this week that the war is "tactically stalemated."

A U.S.-led air campaign against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has inflicted considerable damage, but the U.S.-trained Iraqi army has yet to recapture key cities lost over the past year, including Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province. Also, the U.S. has made little progress in training moderate Syrian rebels to form an effective ground force against IS.

Cook was asked Thursday whether Carter shares Dempsey's view that the war is stalemated.

"I don't know if he would use the exact words as Chairman Dempsey, but I think the secretary's been candid about the difficulties, how hard this fight's gonna be, but that he does believe, ultimately, we're gonna prevail, for a variety of reasons," Cook said. "He believes the strategy right now that is being employed is the right strategy."

Asked about Carter's level of concern that intelligence reports reaching his desk may have been improperly changed to inflate war progress, Cook said he would await the outcome of the inspector general's investigation, which was launched after an intelligence officer at Central Command lodged a complaint in July.

A report by the Daily Beast on Wednesday said more than 50 intelligence analysts at Central Command have formally complained that their reports on the Islamic State and al-Qaida's branch in Syria were being inappropriately altered by senior officials.

Cook said he could not confirm the report, and he would not say whether Carter would punish anyone found to have skewed intelligence assessments.

"I think we're going to wait to see where the IG's investigation goes," Cook said. "I don't want to prejudge the outcome of their investigation and whether or not they find anything like that has happened."
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SouthernSky

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plawolf said:
There is now extremely strong evidence that the recent bombing in Thailand was carried out by Uighur extremists.

Most western reports and governments feign ignorance as to a motive, perhaps as some last ditch desperate attempt to deny the mounting evidence, but the blindingly obvious motive is the 100 or so of Uighur Thailand recently repatriated to China, who wanted them in connection with terrorism offenses.

Looks like the Thai authorities missed a few splinters.

For decades the west has gone out of its way to insist Uighur terrorists are not terrorists, the only rationale I can see is because they are only targeting Chinese. :rolleyes:

The western governments and intelligence agencies of often refused to cooperate with Chinese forces in tracking down and dealing with Uighur terrorists on flimsy "human rights" pretexts at the same time as those very same agencies were busy nabbing people from all over the world and renditioning them to camp x-ray or CIA black sites or even foreign torture centres, which shows how much they actually care about human rights.

Now it seems they have created another monster. Where almost every other radical jihadist terror organisation is actively hunted by western intelligence agencies and forces, Uighur are pretty much given a free pass.

The US even went to great lengths to resettle a load they captured training with the Taliban and Al-Q in Afghanistan, rather than send them back to China, after determining those men where not a threat to America.

I think Beijing should now given serious consideration to launching military operations designed to specifically take out the Uighur fighters western forces tend to leave alone.

To avoid drawing unwanted attention from the main jihadist groups, perhaps this could be done indirectly, through aid and military equipment given to Assad, sending in "advisors", and maybe the establishment of serious "independent" Chinese PMC outfits and sending them to fight in Syria as independent contractors rather than regular Chinese troops.

The goal and rationale would largely be the same as with that for America in fighting in Afghanistan ironically - to keep the terrorists busy and occupied fighting overseas rather than have them infiltrate into China to launch attacks there.

The Syrian war has allowed global Jihadist groups to train up experienced fighters and field commanders to replace all those killed in all the years of fighting against American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If these fighters and commanders are allowed to leave Syria, they could become massive problems by establishing terror cells world wide and launching the commando assault raids becoming ever more common.

It is way past time there was another cull and their ranks depleted.

America is not interested in fighting any more, maybe the Uighur connection and threat would give China a reason to get involved in the fight.

Although given the western reaction to the distinctly standard and very understandable deployments Russia recently made, one can imagine the hysterics if China actually got fully involved in the fight against ISIS.

Somehow I think those demanding China play a bigger role and criticising China for not right now will be singing a very different tune. :rolleyes:
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As someone from the the "evil west" I can assure you it was reported in our "despicable" media and noted by those with more than a passing interest in world affairs.
 
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