Is the US shooting itself in the foot by banning Huawei?

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    In certain places and companies in China, you will find thousands of engineers and managers who previously worked at top Silicon Valley firms, not to mention the many startups whose founders came back from studying or working abroad.

    This is why anecdotes don't work in this situation. Come to China, and you will experience a different kind of confirmation bias.
     
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    can you disprove that or you have link. There are field EU/japan/Skorea is on par or better than US, but overall US is still has the tech edge. its not like i didn't live in china or dont have family in china. So far i haven't heard that many chinese global brand compare to US. kudo to china progress, but dont get cocky over it.
     
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    yes more student going back to china. but there are also mroe foreign student study in US. tens-hundreds thousands chinese student here, not including student from india/middle east/other asia countries etc. while H1B quota is 85k. after graduate if they cant find jobs, then they have to go back. go ask ANY of chinese/indian student how many want to stay to find jobs, get green card etc vs go back.
     

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    there is no issue with high five and some boosting, but over doing it, is not good. China still has long road ahead. what are you talking about linear etc. plenty chinese-american invest in china, but their home still in US, they constantly travel to china make some $$$ then come back, none of them decide permanently go back to china unless they get huge $$$, but thats rare. also are you living in China or in a western country? if its the latter why.
     
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    To a large degree from what I understand someone who is educated and has actual skills can easily get to live in one of the cities in China provided you purchase a property title. Of course this is not easy for someone who is from one of the rural regions. But those kinds of people are typically not who you find studying in one of the colleges in the US given their ridiculously high tuition fees. I doubt Chinese who can afford to study in the US would have issues with the Chinese registry system.
     
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    yes, it was mentioned in the article that stricter visa/green card process is also part of the reason why more go back.

    As a whole, however, Chinese are no longer begging to live overseas like a few decades ago when Chinese living standards were low. Now it's comparable to the global average.
     
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    Chinese people are individuals too. We don't all need to be humble, keeping our head down, etc..
    If some want to take pride in their motherland's success, then let them. If everyone just keeps being humble and acting the same, it'll be too boring.
    China has improved so much since the 1990s, whereas certain other countries that started off at the same starting line (as China) are still stagnant.
    People partying and celebrating their achievements is normal.
     
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    i do agree alot chinese has more choice now, my point is US still attract talent immigrants, and these immigrants help US tech alot. and most these immigrant become american, and their kids is pretty much integrate into american culture.
     
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    there is difference between confidence vs over-confidence. be proud of your own country accomplishments is fine, but start bashing US decline or weakness etc, just cocky. what deng xiao peng said "Keep a cool head and maintain a low profile. but aim to do something big"
     
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