Is the US shooting itself in the foot by banning Huawei?

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signgraph

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Edit: I meant to embed the video at this timestamp at 55:36, but I can't edit the original post anymore nor does the embed work with time stamps so here's the url

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Brumby, why run away in shame like that? A simple "You exposed me for lying. I am sorry for pushing my silly agenda." would have sufficed. While your catty and effeminate behavior is befitting a collapsing empire, it is not a dignified way to live. Please man up (no offense to my lgbt friends).
 

Nutrient

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Watch how the two TV reporters conduct themselves in this interview. They're interviewing a veteran executive of the telecom industry. Majority of the US-based news media have been reduced to cheering squad, or even channels for disinformation in the US vs Huawei reporting.


Thanks. Is the guy being interviewed (Leo Hindery) from the same AT&T that is faking 5G by simply renaming their 4G to "5G Evolution"?

IMHO, AT&T's dishonest action is the best evidence of all that the West is seriously behind in 5G.
 

drowingfish

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Thanks. Is the guy being interviewed (Leo Hindery) from the same AT&T that is faking 5G by simply renaming their 4G to "5G Evolution"?

IMHO, AT&T's dishonest action is the best evidence of all that the West is seriously behind in 5G.
ATT is not the only one, you also have reports like this
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albeit less damning i think these reports paints a picture of struggles to get the 5G project rolling.
 

weig2000

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Not official yet, but if true it carries more weight than the size of UK's market for 5G equipment. This is because 1) UK's membership in the Five-Eye spying alliance and 2) UK's long oversight and monitoring role over Huawei's equipment used in UK by NCSC. Let's not forget it was UK that led the stamped of the western countries joining AIIB a few years back.

Robert Hannigan, former head of GCHQ, the UK signals intelligence agency,
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in the FT on Huawei. Read it
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Blow to US efforts to ban Chinese company from allies’ telecoms networks

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in Washington and
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in Munich 2 hours ago

The British government has concluded that it can mitigate the risk from using Huawei equipment in 5G networks, in a serious blow to US efforts to persuade allies to ban the Chinese supplier from high-speed telecommunications systems.

The UK National Cyber Security Centre has determined that there are ways to limit the risks from using Huawei in future 5G ultra-fast networks, two people familiar with the conclusion, which has not been made public, told the Financial Times.

The finding comes despite stepped-up US efforts to persuade countries to bar Huawei from their networks on the basis that it could help China conduct espionage or cyber sabotage.

The US National Security Agency has been sharing more information with allies and partners to underscore the risks, but several European countries, including the UK and Germany, have not been convinced that a ban is warranted.

One person familiar with the debate said the British conclusion would “carry great weight” with European leaders, since the UK has access to sensitive US intelligence via its membership of the Five Eyes intelligence sharing network.

“Other nations can make the argument that if the British are confident of mitigation against national security threats then they can also reassure their publics and the US administration that they are acting in a prudent manner in continuing to allow their telecommunications service providers to use Chinese components as long as they take the kinds of precautions recommended by the British,” the person said. The US argues that 5G will be so fast — and have so many military applications — that the risk of using any Chinese telecoms equipment is too high. American officials have also made the case that, although there may be no evidence of nefarious activity so far, Huawei could use malign software updates to facilitate espionage.

Robert Hannigan, former head of GCHQ, the UK signals intelligence agency, recently wrote in the FT that NCSC had “never found evidence of malicious Chinese state cyber activity through Huawei” and that any “assertions that any Chinese technology in any part of a 5G network represents an unacceptable risk are nonsense”.

The UK conclusion stands in contrast to Australia and New Zealand — also Five Eyes members — which last year banned telecoms providers from using Huawei equipment in 5G networks.

It also comes as Donald Trump is considering issuing an executive order that would effectively bar US companies from using Huawei. One person familiar with the order said it would be written in a way that was “company and country agnostic”.

Speaking at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday, US vice-president Mike Pence said Huawei posed a threat because of a law that requires telecom companies to share data with the Chinese government.

At the same forum, Jens Stoltenberg, Nato secretary-general, told the FT that the alliance was taking concerns over Huawei “very seriously” and that several allies wanted a co-ordinated response. “We have to look into the level of co-ordination we need to respond. We have not yet concluded as an alliance, but it shows the need to address that issue,” he said.

Alex Younger, head of MI6, the UK secret intelligence service, on Friday indicated that Britain might take a softer line on Huawei than the US, saying the issue was too complex to simply ban the company. He said it was “a more complicated issue than in or out” and countries had “a sovereign right to work through the answer to all of this”.

The NCSC did not dispute that it had determined that the risk from using Huawei could be contained.

It said it had “a unique oversight and understanding” of the Chinese company and expected Huawei to address engineering and security concerns highlighted in a report last year by the Huawei Cyber Security Evaluation Oversight Board, a monitoring board led by the head of the NCSC.

The next board report is expected to be heavily critical of Huawei’s failure to meet earlier demands on equipment, supply chain risks and software engineering. The NCSC is also contributing to a government review of UK telecoms infrastructure, due for release in the spring. The report will probably contain recommendations on how to handle any threats of Chinese espionage posed by Huawei to 5G networks, according to one person briefed on an early draft. The UK will probably recommend a diversity of suppliers and partial restrictions of areas of the 5G network, the person added.

“It's not inherently desirable that a piece of significant national critical infrastructure is provided by a monopoly supplier,” Mr Younger said.

Other European intelligence officials are also concerned about giving Huawei access to 5G networks. But while nations like France and Germany advise caution, they are unlikely to call for an outright ban.

Eric Xu, one of three rotating Huawei chairmen, this month criticised the US campaign to pressure countries to ban Huawei equipment, and questioned whether the US had ulterior motives. “Some say that because these countries are using Huawei gear, it makes it harder for US agencies to obtain these countries’ data,” he said.
 
now I read
East China province eyes large 5G coverage
Xinhua| 2019-02-18 15:56:36
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East China's Jiangxi Province plans to cover its major cities and towns with 5G networks by 2023.

According to a recently-passed plan by the local government, the province will step up its efforts in constructing and expanding 5G networks in the following five years.

It aims to be a pioneer in the country in terms of large-scale commercial use of 5G technology in 2020, and it will be exemplary in the integrated use of 5G, becoming a key area featuring 5G industry in the country in 2023, according to the plan.

By 2023, the province also aims to have more than 10 companies focusing on 5G technology and bring in more than five leading 5G companies larger than 10 billion yuan (1.48 billion U. S. dollars) each.

The 5G industry in the province is expected to have a combined output value of 100 billion yuan by 2023, according to the plan.   
 
interestingly,
UK spies think they can handle Huawei in 5G networks. The US doesn't agree

Updated 7:45 AM ET, Mon February 18, 2019
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The United Kingdom could undermine an American-led campaign to keep Chinese tech company Huawei out of super-fast 5G mobile networks around the world.
The National Cyber Security Centre, part of the UK intelligence service, has concluded that there are ways to limit the risks of using Huawei to build next-generation wireless networks, according to
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by the Financial Times.
Huawei, the world's biggest maker of telecommunications equipment, has been on the defensive in recent months as the US government has pushed for the company's technology to be banned, alleging that it could be used by China for spying. Australia and New Zealand have already blocked mobile carriers from using Huawei for 5G networks, and other governments, including the United Kingdom, are reviewing the situation.
Huawei has strenuously denied that its equipment poses any security risk and has
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as "irresponsible decisions" made for political reasons. Industry executives and analysts say that the US pressure on Huawei risks delaying the rollout of 5G networks in key markets because the company is way ahead of its rivals in developing the technology.
The National Cyber Security Centre declined to comment Monday on the specifics of the Financial Times report but said in a statement that it has "a unique oversight and understanding of Huawei engineering and cyber security."
The intelligence agency is playing an important role in a broader UK government review examining the security of technology that operators plan to use in 5G networks in the country.
"The review is looking at a range of options and will conclude in the spring. No decisions have been taken and any suggestion to the contrary is inaccurate," the Department of Culture, Media and Sport said in a statement Monday.
A spokesperson for Huawei said Monday that the company advocates an open dialogue on security.
"Cybersecurity is an issue which needs to be addressed across the whole industry," the spokesperson said in a statement. "We remain focused on working with our customers to help them deliver world leading technology."
A potential rift for the Five Eyes?
If the UK government decides that Huawei equipment can be used for 5G, it's likely to strain relations with Washington.
The United Kingdom is part of a close intelligence-sharing alliance with the United States known as
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, which also includes Australia, Canada and New Zealand. The approval of Huawei technology by one member of the group would undercut the American offensive against the company.
Vice President Mike Pence said Saturday that the United States has been "very clear" with its security partners about the threat posed by Huawei and other Chinese telecoms companies.
"We must protect our critical telecom infrastructure, and America is calling on all our security partners to be vigilant and to reject any enterprise that would compromise the integrity of our communications technology or our national security systems," Pence told attendees at the Munich Security Conference.
New 5G networks are set to increase the speed of wireless internet on smartphones, and allow larger numbers of internet-enabled devices to communicate with each other more efficiently. That could advance plans for things like
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in which connected cars can communicate with traffic systems.
A British government oversight panel that monitors Huawei's activities in the United Kingdom warned last year that it can provide only "limited assurance" that the company's telecoms equipment poses no threat to national security.
The supervisory panel also said that "technical issues" had been identified in Huawei's engineering processes, leading to "new risks in the UK telecommunications networks."
Huawei has responded by promising to invest $2 billion to address those concerns through improvements in its software engineering capabilities. The company said in
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that it could take as long as five years before the upgrade shows "tangible results."
UK could influence others
How Huawei fares in the United Kingdom could influence decisions by other governments that have stepped up scrutiny of the company's products, such as
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BT Group (
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), which runs one of the top UK mobile operators, said in December that it would not use Huawei equipment in the heart of its 5G network, which launches this year in 16 UK cities. The company said at the time that it would keep Huawei as an "important equipment provider outside the core network," using its equipment in areas that are considered "benign," such as masts or towers.
In an interview with CNN Business earlier this month, a top BT executive said the company has
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"Over the years that we've worked with Huawei, we've not yet seen anything that gives us cause for concern," said Marc Allera, the CEO of BT's consumer brands.
 
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