Is the US shooting itself in the foot by banning Huawei?

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What's with all this one liners? And personal questioning?
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Please, Jura. Stay civil!
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#3624 Gatekeeper, Yesterday at 2:26 AM
"Trouble is I'm a lecturer at the local college."

and

Gatekeeper
card says "from UK"

while ("ignorance list")

#5468 Gatekeeper, Yesterday at 9:44 PM
"... you'll have the honour of being the first person on my ignorance list!"

plus

bringing
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here
#255 Gatekeeper, Yesterday at 3:29 PM

and

your inept quote
#5465 Gatekeeper, Yesterday at 4:33 PM

taken together lead me think you might be an anti-China provocateur (impersonating a pro-China fool)
 
here comes the DefenseOne story of
Cyber Deterrence Done Right: The Coordinated Actions Against Huawei
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By marshalling the collective power of its allies, the U.S. may have finally found a model for imposing costs on cyber adversaries.

An
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in Canada.
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in Poland. Government bans in
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, and
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. Corporate snubs and ostracism in
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,
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,
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. The
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of purchase orders by one of the world’s largest wireless providers. And now a
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by the U.S. Justice Department. It has been a bad few months for Chinese telecommunication titan Huawei. Unleashing the collective power of its democratic allies, the United States may have finally found the formula for imposing real costs on its cyber adversaries.

The indictment unsealed on Jan. 28 alleges that Huawei willfully violated U.S. sanctions on Iran and repeatedly lied to U.S. financial institutions and federal authorities about Huawei’s business in Iran. The sanctions violations began in 2007 and continued after investigative reporters revealed Huawei’s
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in
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abuses in Iran and its transfer of
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to Iran in violation of U.S. sanctions and export controls. Reporting earlier this year revealed that Huawei is also
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.

A separate
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unsealed the same day describes how “Huawei intentionally conspired to steal the intellectual property of an American company in an attempt to undermine the free and fair global marketplace,” according to FBI Director Christopher Wray. The indictment details a directed espionage campaign complete with
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for employees who stole valuable trade secrets. This is not the first time the company has been
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of
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. In 2004, Huawei
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claims for misappropriating and copying Cisco’s source code. Huawei
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another case brought by Motorola in 2011.

The company has long been under
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for ties to the ruling Chinese Communist Party. A 2012 Congressional
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revealed a “potential pattern of unethical and illegal behavior by Huawei officials” and accused the company of
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“special network services to an entity” believed “to be an elite cyber-warfare unit” of the People’s Liberation Army.

But where previous investigations and lawsuits appeared to make no measurable impact on the company’s growth, the new
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by U.S. allies and
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by Washington is beginning to take its toll. At Davos last month, Huawei Chairman Liang Hua admitted that the company may withdraw from countries where it
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.

The synchronized steps by the United States and its allies against Huawei build on the diplomatic efforts earlier in the Trump administration to issue joint condemnations of
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and
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for the 2017
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attacks, respectively. Attribution alone is not a cyber strategy, but it does communicate to U.S. adversaries that they cannot rely on the plausible deniability of cyber operations to avoid retaliation. Together, Washington and its allies can thwart that advantage.

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the rest of
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These coordinated efforts demonstrated that joint punitive actions can be more powerful than unilateral measures. When the
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and European Union
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equipment and software from Russia’s
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within three days of each other, the company’s CEO
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in frustration. But to date, these have all been ad hoc initiatives. It is time for Washington to create a standing consortium of likeminded nations to identify companies and technology that pose risks to the integrity of critical infrastructure and communications systems and take joint action to excise them from allied systems.

This coalition of the willing can share intelligence about potentially nefarious software or hardware providers so that each nation can take steps to protect its own networks. The U.S. and its partners should also exclude products from companies that benefit from cyber and traditional intellectual property theft since these companies gain unfair economic advantages. There will no doubt be economic costs to banning
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products, but the coalition will also create market incentives for Huawei’s competitors who can meet the need for alternative, more secure information technology supply chains.

Together, a cyber coalition of the willing can open the innovation floodgates by protecting private companies from being
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by Chinese competitors who steal intellectual property and rush to market. A meticulous
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by the bipartisan IP Commission found that intellectual property theft diminishes the incentive to innovate. Instead, the cyber coalition can ensure that companies that invest in research and development will be able to reap the commercial benefits of their innovations.

As trust and intelligence-sharing mature, this coalition should take the next step toward becoming a true cyber alliance. The alliance could begin to jointly create and field new capabilities to protect the networks upon which its members depend for security and prosperity. The United States and its allies must also
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in long-term, strategic research and development. The technology battlefield is where the American economy and national security are most at risk. Collaboration with our closest allies is our best defense
 

tidalwave

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Collision of willing mostly come from Anglo countries and eastern EU countries need US protection against Russia.
Not everyone is Anglo in the world therefore resisting. Italy , Spain, and Germany are resisting...
 

SteelBird

Colonel
The report of CNN below clarifies that the US is messing with world's 5G plans. By banning Huawei, the left choices are either Ericsson or Nokia but both are behind Huawei. The chart in the report is interesting, all nations plan their standalone 5G in 2025 except China planing for 2020. Does that mean China is 5 year ahead of the world in 5G technology?

America's fight with Huawei is messing with the world's 5G plans
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localizer

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The report of CNN below clarifies that the US is messing with world's 5G plans. By banning Huawei, the left choices are either Ericsson or Nokia but both are behind Huawei. The chart in the report is interesting, all nations plan their standalone 5G in 2025 except China planing for 2020. Does that mean China is 5 year ahead of the world in 5G technology?

America's fight with Huawei is messing with the world's 5G plans
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Setup that 5G in all cities and start networking all the cars and everything. Skynet will start in China it seems
 

B.I.B.

Captain
When NZ droped Huawei as a contender for 5g.Huawei has taken out big billboard signs saying
Nz without the All Blacks is like 5g without Huawei.
Perhap they can run similar ads in countries that hav
e also decided against using Huawei for their 5g.

In the U S.they could say America without CocaCola/Super Bowl is like 5g without Huawei.
 
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Gatekeeper

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I think it's about time some of these countries decide which side of their bread is buttered.
Really, some of these countries like New Zealand, Australia, Korea. And eastern European countries like Poland thinks they can have their cakes and eat it!
I mean take New Zealand for example. Their biggest trading partner by far is China, and by a wide margin. Also, any movement in trade with China have profound impact on their economy.
Therefore what is the logic of their politicians to decide to side up with the US against their largest trading partner and think nothing is going to happen to that relationship with their partner! Mind boggles!
So what's happened. Since New Zealand ban hauwai?
Well, they have their flights returned back from shanghai. China postponed talks regarding increasing student number to New Zealand.
This is just a start. China has many more tools in their arsenal.
And lastly. I read in the western MSM that now China is a big bully becsuse it uses its economic clout to bully their trading partners. Please! As if the US never does that!
And let's face it. Why should anyone trade with a country when that country is actively seek to harm you! Mind boggles!
 

Brumby

Major
I think it's about time some of these countries decide which side of their bread is buttered.
Really, some of these countries like New Zealand, Australia, Korea. And eastern European countries like Poland thinks they can have their cakes and eat it!
I mean take New Zealand for example. Their biggest trading partner by far is China, and by a wide margin. Also, any movement in trade with China have profound impact on their economy.
Therefore what is the logic of their politicians to decide to side up with the US against their largest trading partner and think nothing is going to happen to that relationship with their partner! Mind boggles!
Simple. Security trumps economics any day.
 
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